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    D4 Aircon Compressor Replacement

    Discovery 4 2010 3.0L TDV6 220K Km

    I posted previously but keen to get further feedback with Videos attached

    I have a drone / dull whine when car started, not there when I take drive belt off.

    As per videos
    1. I can get a bit of noise and slight play on the aircon compressor pulley bearing when the belt is off, see first video
    2. The noise changes tone and is slightly quieter when the aircon is on, see 2nd video when driving and I turn it on half way through video, my understanding is this confirms its the aircon as it changes due to additional load

    I plan on replacing myself

    Questions
    1. I don't think it can be anything else, as other pulleys are smooth and no noise, but confirmation from those with more knowledge than myself based on videos would be good
    2. When I hand turn the clutch / magnetic plate on end of pulley it's smooth, so assume issue is only pulley bearing and internals are good, pulley / bearing can't be replaced on these ? Has to be full unit ?
    3. Will take to professional to evacuate refrigerant and regas afterwards, plan on doing this Friday and Monday and replace over weekend, does leaving the condenser without vacuum for this long cause an issue to dryer ?
    4. Should I replace condenser also, as car has 220K km even though air con is working ? OEM is Nissen ?
    5. OEM for conpressor is Sanden ? I know I should also replace o-rings
    6. I know I need to remove fan and shroud, drop coolant, remove wheel and arch, remove coolant tube in front of compressor. Any other tips ?
    7. Anything I am missing ?

    Thanks in advance, I am learning job by job
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    2010 Discovery 4 3.0L TDV6 ~180K

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    Well then. I am chasing the same whine. Just replaced the Alternator because it had a crunchy bearing, but it sounds identical to yours from behind the wheel. I was hoping it was the compressor pulley.

    On the 2.7 there's no magnetic clutch. The replacement is relatively straight forward. I've done a few pulley bearings on compressors with mag clutches over the years. Just need the manual for the compressor. Generally they can be done in-place, although I've had to make a tool before to hold the plate while undoing the nose bolt. Figure out how to wind the clutch plate off, then there's usually a circlip behind that holding the pulley in place. The pulley slides off the nose of the compressor. On older units I've replaced the bearing. On the D3 the pulley comes as a unit with the bearing. Don't know for yours.

    Bitter experience says if you leave it too long the movement will trash the front bearing in the compressor and take out the seal necessitating replacement, so the earlier you can fix it the cheaper its going to be.
    MY08 D3 - The Antichrist - "Permagrimace". Turn the key and play the "will it get me home again" lottery.

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    Thanks, there is magnetic plate on the discovery 4, but think I read it's not serviceable in D4. Would be happy to hear otherwise from the collective wisdom in group.
    2010 Discovery 4 3.0L TDV6 ~180K

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Well then. I am chasing the same whine. Just replaced the Alternator because it had a crunchy bearing, but it sounds identical to yours from behind the wheel. I was hoping it was the compressor pulley.

    On the 2.7 there's no magnetic clutch. The replacement is relatively straight forward. I've done a few pulley bearings on compressors with mag clutches over the years. Just need the manual for the compressor. Generally they can be done in-place, although I've had to make a tool before to hold the plate while undoing the nose bolt. Figure out how to wind the clutch plate off, then there's usually a circlip behind that holding the pulley in place. The pulley slides off the nose of the compressor. On older units I've replaced the bearing. On the D3 the pulley comes as a unit with the bearing. Don't know for yours.

    Bitter experience says if you leave it too long the movement will trash the front bearing in the compressor and take out the seal necessitating replacement, so the earlier you can fix it the cheaper its going to be.
    Suggest you take of belt and spin the pulley see whether smooth or noisy.
    2010 Discovery 4 3.0L TDV6 ~180K

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    I did that a couple of weeks ago and everything felt smooth and quiet, which was frustrating.

    I did the alternator because even though it felt smooth I knew it was becoming a problem. In the 2 weeks from test to replacement the alternator had become quite crunchy, so I'll have to re-assess the A/C pulley. I have found my mechanics stethoscope, so I'll take the opportunity to have a good listen to all the others while I'm in there.

    Thankfully ever since I un-stuck the fan 8 years ago, it always goes back on with grease on the threads and it comes off with a crescent wrench and a gentle tap each time, so I'm getting quite quick at getting the belt on and off.
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    I always thought protocol was to replace the front condenser and dryer anytime you open it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster View Post
    I always thought protocol was to replace the front condenser and dryer anytime you open it up.
    Some don't if Compressor hasn't grenades and sent swarf or dust through the System. It depends on how long open for and Vacuuming as soon as possible will remove air moisture from system.

    I can get OEM dryer from Rimmers reasonable priced. Anyone any recommendations on the full condenser / dryer unit ?
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    Also should rest of system be flushed ? I think I read although some do it, shouldn't flush through the TX.

    And if it should be flushed should that be done before or after replacement ?
    2010 Discovery 4 3.0L TDV6 ~180K

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    I did that a couple of weeks ago and everything felt smooth and quiet, which was frustrating.

    I did the alternator because even though it felt smooth I knew it was becoming a problem. In the 2 weeks from test to replacement the alternator had become quite crunchy, so I'll have to re-assess the A/C pulley. I have found my mechanics stethoscope, so I'll take the opportunity to have a good listen to all the others while I'm in there.

    Thankfully ever since I un-stuck the fan 8 years ago, it always goes back on with grease on the threads and it comes off with a crescent wrench and a gentle tap each time, so I'm getting quite quick at getting the belt on and off.
    With the D3 if you search the Dico UK site you can also bypass the aircon with shorter belt, this will allow you to
    1. Verify it is AC
    2. Avoid risking damage to wider system until you get it replaced
    2010 Discovery 4 3.0L TDV6 ~180K

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddielines View Post
    With the D3 if you search the Dico UK site you can also bypass the aircon with shorter belt, this will allow you to
    1. Verify it is AC
    2. Avoid risking damage to wider system until you get it replaced
    This is very good info as I pondered doing this job DIY. Step 1 would be getting it degassed somewhere then tear it apart in your shed. Then you are a bit stuck in terms of a flush unless you find a mobile specialist. Even driving around with the system reassembled but off is not ideal.

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