What Pedro said!
If the van has a weight distribution problem, then I'd get rid of it.
(Sorry BigJon, I should have said LR dudes.)
Ron, every post you make reveals just how much you know about the D3.
from a different angle Peterpam--
The makers of 3tonne vans are more interested in the interior rather than the front/rear weights overs the axels,, thats YOUR problem.
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What Pedro said!
If the van has a weight distribution problem, then I'd get rid of it.
(Sorry BigJon, I should have said LR dudes.)
Ron, every post you make reveals just how much you know about the D3.
Personally i'd be listening to the owners of a D3 with air/active suspension, my experience is only with a D2 no air, so i won't comment on how mine tows to try and compare it to a D3.
We have 2 D3s non air models here at work, that tow sweepers on tandum axle trailers, all up there weight is around 2.5t with 4 men in the car, so about 2.9t, they both have the standard LR tow hitch, the guys have never mentioned anything negitive about them, the 3rd vehicle that tows a sweeper, the Patrol, is, and i quote the driver "***king frightening"
Trying it first without the WDH is a good idea, may save you un-nessesary $ if it's OK.
As for the articals on the benifits of using WDHs, all good info, but i suspect written for the older suspensioned vehicles.
OH and i too would like to know what Landcruiser has air suspension
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They don't, I remembered a mate who used to tow a heavy car trailer with vintage Jaguar on the back. The vehicle used to rise when he started it, and last seen he had a LC Sahara TD. However, the first one (that rose) was a then new, Range Rover and he flogged it for the Sahara. It was apparently a thirsty, unreliable POS!
Man, I have to bite now. I have read through this thread and found it interesting as I know nothing about caravans etc. Ron, mate, you have littered the thread with manyThey don't, I remembered a mate who used to tow a heavy car trailer with vintage Jaguar on the back. The vehicle used to rise when he started it, and last seen he had a LC Sahara TD. However, the first one (that rose) was a then new, Range Rover and he flogged it for the Sahara. It was apparently a thirsty, unreliable POS!, a few there ya go "in ya face" type comments and on every occasion you have been wrong. Page 2 of the thread you made comment about a Land Cruiser with Air Suspension....Page 6, it seems it may have been a RR. You say a FL can't tow to save its life, wouldnt have the power, then knocked for six at the torque of the new ones. The experts who own D3's or service them/ techo's are saying one doesnt use a WDH ( learnt something there), yet you are battling these people the whole way through...cause you MUST BE RIGHT.

You seem like nice enough fella but know when to let go and move along, especially when it comes to technical issues in relation to my vehicle, I want to hear from people who know.....not think they know,
Regards
Stevo
Heh I tow a 2t van which has a load distribution with 10% nose weight and the air suspension does a beautiful job in keeping all things level and under control.
I'll never be going against what LR state with WDH's on a D3.
Chris
I was doing some reading at lunchtime and came across this statement on the Driving Technology page for the D3 - click on the words air suspension and this pops up.
It says that the suspension is cross-linked, does this mean that if the right rear wheel is pushed up, the air is forced into the front left airbag forcing it down?Four-corner, electronic air suspension ensures a smooth, constant ride height irrespective of load, number of passengers or weight of luggage. The air springs are computer controlled, giving automatically softer or firmer springing depending on road or track conditions. And because they are cross-linked, they allow extreme axle articulation over rocks or deep ruts.
A further bonus is that the ride height can also be manually selected – offering, for instance, the ability to lower the vehicle by 55mm to make it easier to get in and out of and to load.
So if you put a trailer on the back of the D3 the rear wheels will be forced up and the front wheels forced downwards - effectively doing what the WDH \ springs do?
Is my logic right?
Alternatively is the suspension only electronically cross linked i.e the computer detects a change in the level of the car and compensates accordingly?
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Stevo,
Don't worry too much
Caravanning and towing I do know about. D3's no.
Freelanders, only the older ones and have not followed the newer ones, so No. It was a surprise!!
Air bag LC, yes, it was an Airbag RR. Confussing, yes.
PTSD, anti-drepessants and Forums can be a bit much at times, but I'm happy and I'll unreservedly "Let Go" of everything, D3
The Towing test was done with a WDH.
I have communicated with Peter, off line. He is happy and therefore, so am I.
I bought a Discovery to tow a caravan, I'm still improving on it, to do it better. In the mean time, I do NOT want to see people have accidents towing a caravan from advice that maybe true from a Land Rover angle, but outright dangerous from a towing angle.
Cheers,
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