Thread: D3 / RR UK-lpg link.

Found this on the UK Disco 3 site; would like to hear from others about this regarding the doughnut lpg tank. !!!!!!!!!!

"No No! Don't even consider it, the spare forms part of the crash safety system. Replacing it with an LPG tank would not be a good idea. Replacing one of the rear seats is a far better alternative"

The rear seat replacement tank is 120 litres (might be ideal for "S" owners)

Laurie
As you possibly know, I don't own a D3 yet,so I'm still a bit unsure about some things.
Could you expand on what you mean by -
"Replacing one of the rear seats is a far better alternative
The rear seat replacement tank is 120 litres (might be ideal for "S" owners)"

White D3
The prices I said earlier were for Holdens and Falcons. I guess D3s would be dearer, but in particular,since this latest rounds of petrol prices, I believe the demand for LPG conversions has increased even more. Result even higher prices !
Apart from that, you might find ( even if there is a kit in Australia ) that installers might be fobbing you off because they don't want to do it.
From their point of view, why do a potentially difficult Disco, when they have 100 Holden and Falcon owners at their door.
John

Originally Posted by johnc18

The prices I said earlier were for Holdens and Falcons. I guess D3s would be dearer, but in particular,since this latest rounds of petrol prices, I believe the demand for LPG conversions has increased even more. Result even higher prices !
Apart from that, you might find ( even if there is a kit in Australia ) that installers might be fobbing you off because they don't want to do it.
From their point of view, why do a potentially difficult Disco, when they have 100 Holden and Falcon owners at their door.
John

Well, yes, maybe. And I hate to say it, but there's nothing flash about the D3 V6. It's a re-tuned 4.0 litre unit found in a million+ Fords around the world and has been around for years in various iterations. Can it be that different from a Falcon motor?

John
Apparently the spare tyre well with the tyre in place is essential for maximum protection in a event of a rear end collision. In most "S" models the rear 7 seat is missing,so those "S" users won't notice any seating decrease.
I haven't got a D3 yet !!! still have my Td5. My heart says stay with diesel ,but the head says petrol hence my dilemma, thats why I'm looking at all options. If diesel continues at the present price it will be hard to go past petrol. Diesel in Canberra has been up to 30 cents a litre dearer lately; I could run the beautiful V8 for same outlay and if gas was an option ???? Second hand V8's will dry up quickly with there lower resale value at the moment, "IF" lpg becomes available.,

A question for those who know.

Can you fit these systems yourself? E.g. Is it legal to do so and if so what if anything do you have to do to be legal?

The short answer is yes/no.

The installation has to be approved by a licenced installer. Therefore, the best way for them to make sure is to install it themselves.

On the other hand, if you know a tame licenced installer...

Best Wishes,

Originally Posted by Laurie

Found this on the UK Disco 3 site; would like to hear from others about this regarding the doughnut lpg tank. !!!!!!!!!!

"No No! Don't even consider it, the spare forms part of the crash safety system. Replacing it with an LPG tank would not be a good idea. Replacing one of the rear seats is a far better alternative"

The rear seat replacement tank is 120 litres (might be ideal for "S" owners)

I'd like to see exactly how the spare tyre is part of the crash safety system? Its only attached by a single wire after all?

White D3
Yes I agree with you there, but I was thinking mainly in terms of the D3s electronics. As I understand it, these gas injection systems "piggy-back" their ECU on to the cars ECU. Any hiccups there on Falcons or Holdens would already been known and sorted. A new car may have unknowns. Most people prefer an easy life.
If you like, I'll ask if there is a kit.
Do you still live on the Gold Coast ?

Chilly
Bushwanderer nailed it. I have a friend who fitted his own LPG system.However, he's an ex mechanic with lots of contacts in the game, and did it via his mates ( lic installer) advice, and then got him to sign off on it. My thinking at the moment is to buy a V8 (next year) and convert it to gas. If there's no kit for the V8, then I'd look at importing one from England, and combine it with the aluminium modular tank.Then persuade some understanding installer to fit it. Note though, there's all sorts of traps for the unwary. Australian ADR's differ to other countries. eg The torroidal tank in the photo looks like its hard up against the rear bumper bar. That would make it illegal here. So you'd want to make sure of what you are doing.

Laurie
Thanks for clarifying the "rear seat replacement tank".
If your heart says diesel, have a look at the "gas injection on diesel" thread and look at the sites I've posted there. If you believe their dyno figures, big increases in power, torque, and economy.

Cheers John