Thread: Report on General Grabbers

be careful there are some obscurities in the rules for tyres on vehicles when it comes to speed..

as a rule I use the vehicles top speed when selecting tyres and in some cases it has to be the maximum speed on the speedo..... (thats an old rule which has been superseded but the old copies of the book still exist and old guys will still quote from them)

I cant remember where you are but is there any chance that I can get my hands on your damaged rim and the patched tyre... I have some butchery experiments I wish to conduct. The tyre will be safe but the rim is going to get some abuse heaped at it.

Hi Dave,

I have had a couple of people (including the parts guy at Landrover) tell me that the rims can be repaired so I am going to investigate that first. I checked today with the insurance company and it should be covered by insurance but there is still a $400 excess so if it can be repaired for less than that it may be worth trying. A new rim from Landrover is $1208.55 + GST, which is about what I was expecting, but I am not sure how the hell they justify that kind of price.

Thanks again for your help getting it all fixed too. Would have been even further up the creek without those tyrepliers.

Tim.

Tim,
You can definately get the rim repaired.

Back in the old days when we had a BMW convertable with 45 series tyres, we bent no less than 6 over a period of 12 months, much worse than the ding in yours.

Each wheel was repaired as good as new. Price was a couple of hundered, but this was around 10 years ago.

CC

Urmmmmmm.....

not entirely sure Id be trusting a repaired ally rim.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Urmmmmmm.....

not entirely sure Id be trusting a repaired ally rim.

In Osboure Park (Perth WA) .... there is company that "lives off" repairing Ali Rims ... From crushed to small damage like the one in Timj photo's posted

They basically "heat the rim up" and then "roll them on a lathe" .... Costs about $100+ ?



Timj ... If you get stuck & If you have to pay for a new rim ... just send the old one to Perth and get them to repair it ... as yours is a easy repair

BUT what ever you do .... DON'T try to belt it straight yourself ... then you will have to scrap it

Mike

I have been told that the tyre fitment laws are to be changed in January 09. There is no indication of which way they will go as yet, so the present rule of a maximum increase of 15mm in tyre diameter may be increased or decreased or remain the same and other bits change. I would like the new Cooper LTZ to be street legal but at 799mm they are 21mm bigger than the law (ADR's) currently allows. Remember this is subject to political will so maybe maybe not there is a change coming.

If you look on the Coopers US website there is a big promo about the LTZ and Land Rover RRS and Disco 3's where they look very good.

Ryall

I have to admit to a little worry about repairing an alloy rim but given that it did not appear to be losing pressure through that damage anyway then I think I will trust it. Just have to find someone in Brisbane or at least close to do it.

TDV6 - I believe the standard tyre is 775mm so that gives us up to 790mm legally. There aren't really a lot in 18" that fall within that and give you a taller sidewall which is what I have realised I need if I am going to travel the sort of country that destroyed these tyres. Even in the 17" the 265/70 is slightly too large. 265/65 is ok as is 245/70 and 275/65. Easiest way to show what I found is to paste in the document I made up while I was researching. I am sure there are ones that I missed in this list but it was limited to those with a correct load rating.

255 60 18
General Grabber AT2 112H 775mm
285 60 18
Toyo Open Country AT 120S 795mm (Passenger Construction)
275 65 18
Mickey Thompson ATZ 123R 815mm
245 70 17
Cooper ST 119Q 773mm
Cooper STT 119Q 780mm
Mickey Thompson ATZ 119R 777mm
265 65 17
General Grabber AT2 112T 790mm
Goodyear Silent Armour 112 776mm
Dunlop Grandtrek AT3 112S
Kumho KL78 112H
Toyo Open Country AT 112S 775mm (Passenger Construction)
Bridgestone D694 112S 776mm
Yokohama ATS (GO12) 112H 776mm
265 70 17
Toyo Open Country AT 121S 804mm (LT Construction)
Goodyear Silent Armour 112R 803mm
General Grabber AT2 115S 818mm
Mickey Thompson ATZ 121R 803mm (5 Rib)
Mickey Thompson ATZ 121Q 805mm (4 Rib)
BF Goodrich AT KO ?
275 65 17
Bridgestone D694 115T 790mm
Bridgestone D693 114H 789mm
Yokohama ATS (GO12) 115H 790mm
Toyo Open Country AT 115T 788mm (Passenger Construction)
Dunlop Grandtrek AT3 115H
Goodyear Silent Armour 115T

Maxxis Bighorn & Bravo AT in 17s, Goodyear MTR 265 70 17 121P, Mickey T MTZ 265 70 17 121Q


Tim.

After seeing Scallops and JohnR both go through no worries, I would go the Mickey T's.

These are the only things I would put on after my Michies.

Hell, I could even be tempted to put a set on. shock Horror.

Claim the rim on insurance Tim, get a new one, then get the old one repaired. You will then have 6 rims and something to put on the other side of your dual swingaway carrier

Or just buy 6 17inch rims, and leave the grabbers for the coles carpark

CC