Thread: Disappointment

Originally Posted by Disco44

Besides being an apparent Tojo lover on what basis do you make those comparisons? All models Tojo puts out are greatly overpriced for what you get for your money.If one has the money to buy the top Rangie with all its refinements the 200 against it would be the greatest mismatch in history.Its just not in the same shed.As for the D4 against the Prado another mismatch.Troopies agin defenders thats closer but again look at the price difference and the Troopies offered in Australia are not what is offered overseas in the door versions.The Hilux is a great farm vehicle but was never meant to be a serious offroader..for one look at the gearboxes offered they were off Tojo cars ( eg The Corolla) .To end ..in this years best cars (NRMA RAC RACQ etc)The D4 went up against the Cruiser GXL D and the Pajero GLS 695 and won hands down again.This win makes it 5 in a row for the Landrover Discovery ...a record.The only other to win five was Subaru's Forester but not in consecutive years as the Disco has done.

My point exactly

Originally Posted by Disco44

Besides being an apparent Tojo lover on what basis do you make those comparisons? All models Tojo puts out are greatly overpriced for what you get for your money.If one has the money to buy the top Rangie with all its refinements the 200 against it would be the greatest mismatch in history.Its just not in the same shed.As for the D4 against the Prado another mismatch.Troopies agin defenders thats closer but again look at the price difference and the Troopies offered in Australia are not what is offered overseas in the door versions.The Hilux is a great farm vehicle but was never meant to be a serious offroader..for one look at the gearboxes offered they were off Tojo cars ( eg The Corolla) .To end ..in this years best cars (NRMA RAC RACQ etc)The D4 went up against the Cruiser GXL D and the Pajero GLS 695 and won hands down again.This win makes it 5 in a row for the Landrover Discovery ...a record.The only other to win five was Subaru's Forester but not in consecutive years as the Disco has done.

Now Dobbo..feel free to correct me....but I'm not sure ( Disco44) where you come up with that Dobbo is a Tojo lover. In fact I think you have missed the point by close to a country mile . It is irrevelant whether in your knowledge that a RR and a 200, or D4 and Prado are a mismatch......the point I think being made was the comparison of equivalent models between the two marques based on X criteria...i.e the 200 Sahara is top of the range for toyota.....RRV for LR......for a medium sized family wagon...Toyota has the Prado...LR the Discovery and so forth. The comments made...the way I read it anyway had nothing to do with a biase towards Toyota per se...but to compare like with like ( despite perceived mismatch or not)

Regards

Stevo

Originally Posted by dobbo

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Compare flagships with flagships

Compare the 200 to a Rangie

Hey Dobbo - you forgot a little something... Tojo has redefined their flagship! The Lexus LX570 is their flagship - that is the same warthog-shape as the LC200, along with the more expensive badge, fake woodwork, and similar dust-sealing and oil-burning capabilities.

Also - people keep mentioning RR alone... they also forget the RRS is not an RR!

I reckon the comparison should be something like this:
Range Rover vs Lexus LX570
Range Rover Sport vs Toyota LC200 (Warthog!)
Discovery 4 vs Prado (Son of Warthog!)
Freelander vs <No offering from Toyota - they now only do AWD not 4WD>
Defender vs Troopy
<No offering from Land Rover> vs Hilux

Cheers,
Rob