Sand driving in a D3, what am I doing wrong?

**rmp** · 29th January 2010, 04:22 PM

Before we get too far into a competition to see who's been naughtiest and thus see what other wonders FFL brings out of her avatar cupboard (am I the only one thinking United States of Tara) if someone would like to take the sand-relevant parts of this thread and post in the FAQ thread I'll update the FAQ.

**WhiteD3** · 29th January 2010, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by roamer

I've been very naughty as well

has police girl got a friend, I'm twice as naughty as the others

Gents,

Keep in mind that things on the net are never what they seem. Fifi could be some hairy-arsed bloke with a beer belly, monk fringe and a fetish for Llamas.

ie you probably think I'm some burnt out, midlife crisis hasbeen when in reality I look like this!

Be careful what you wish for

.

Sorry Fifi

**FifiLámour** · 29th January 2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by roamer

I've been very naughty as well

has police girl got a friend, I'm twice as naughty as the others

Careful what you wish for Roamer! You want punishment? Here you go

White D3. Nah, not a hairy arsed bloke, but I do have a few piercings and a couple of tatts

:

Oh...and err, WhiteD3, you can borrow my Maxtrax any time

.

**rmp** · 29th January 2010, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by WhiteD3

Gents,
in reality I look like this!

WOW!!! You're my long-lost twin brother, the uglier one!!!

**Hoges** · 29th January 2010, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by rmp

Maxtrax or similar are not *required* for sand driving -- we all managed before they existed. They are however very useful for recovery. So, if you intend to do a lot of sand driving they are a bonus, and I would suggest that 4WD clubs have a set to be lent out on trips. You only need one set per convoy really. They are the best sand recovery device I have used thus far (I have tested a set literally to destruction, yes it was fun) and were top rated in a recent review of such devices. Flexible tracks like the Bushranger (or carpet) do not spread the weight as effectively.

Whilst I have no commercial interest in the device I do know the owner/designer and *may* be able to swing a bulk deal if there's interest, say 5 sets of 2.
They need to be carried on the roofrack with no bag, just ocky straps, or inside but then really in a bag as they get sandy.

I'd be most interested in participating in the "deal"

**djhampson** · 29th January 2010, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by rmp

Maxtrax or similar are not *required* for sand driving -- we all managed before they existed. They are however very useful for recovery. So, if you intend to do a lot of sand driving they are a bonus, and I would suggest that 4WD clubs have a set to be lent out on trips. You only need one set per convoy really. They are the best sand recovery device I have used thus far (I have tested a set literally to destruction, yes it was fun) and were top rated in a recent review of such devices. Flexible tracks like the Bushranger (or carpet) do not spread the weight as effectively.

Whilst I have no commercial interest in the device I do know the owner/designer and *may* be able to swing a bulk deal if there's interest, say 5 sets of 2.

They need to be carried on the roofrack with no bag, just ocky straps, or inside but then really in a bag as they get sandy.

I'm in for at least one pair.

**roamer** · 29th January 2010, 07:50 PM

Also after a set:
I,m in

**rmp** · 29th January 2010, 08:00 PM

OK, all those interested in a set of Maxtrax -- and this is a serious offer, if I ask them you'll be expected to come through -- email me (click my username) with your name and what you want, ie quantity (2 or 4) and if you want a bag. Four are ideal, but you can make do with two, and if someone else has a pair you've then got four anyway. I wouldn't bother with a bag if you can put them on the roofrack or outside.

No promises but I'll ask if we get to 5.

**Jamo** · 29th January 2010, 09:44 PM

I concur, low tyre pressures, Maxtrax and a shovel. That's what you need for soft sand.

Too many people around here resort immediately for the snatch strap.

And you need a real shovel. In one of my early forays I took a tools entrenching (small folding shovel)

because it took up less space. Big mistake.

**Nomad9** · 30th January 2010, 08:54 AM

Jamo,
Guilty as charged, I went for the snatch strap, my problem was it was only a 9 meter one I had to be recovered with a 30 meter snatch strap. I believe that this would be rather a "horses for courses" type thing. In my situation the snatch strap was by far the most "efficient" method of recovery, there were three people in a RAV four which in all honesty was well out of it's "comfort zone" in the same area who had been trying to get out for over an hour, admittedly they were only using two Maxtrax and one of them had got jammed under the vehicle and was as it turned out slightly damaged by the heat of the exhaust resting on it. The owner of a passing Land Cruiser had lent these people his Maxtrax. In the end these people were recovered by a 30 meter snatch strap same as my self.
The following day our group went out and a 100 series got stuck, similar situation to myself, the beach where he got stuck was only three vehicles wide and there was a sharp 250 / 300 mm drop off in the middle so there was no way a snatch strap could be used. The guys on this occasion used four Maxtrax mats and a shovel and got the vehicle out fairly easily. So for me I believe there is a time and a place for everything, each situation is uniquely different.
Had I had my exhaust jack and all the cumbersomeness that goes with that this could also well have been a good method of recovery "eventually". This is just my opinion other may vary.

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