Thread: 'sigh' underwhelmed by MY12 TDV8

Originally Posted by Daniel

I guess the Germans designed the L322 seat armrest for a use other than resting one's left arm on it!

You keep on saying the Germans did this and did that but other that providing capital and high level direction (such as use BMW engines etc) the detail of the design of the RR and other Landrover products was done by the same people who have been doing it for years - mainly Brits in the UK.

I very much doubt that the "germans" had much to do with the design of the seats but senior managers - whether they be Brit or whatever would have signed off on the design after development.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

You keep on saying the Germans did this and did that but other that providing capital and high level direction (such as use BMW engines etc) the detail of the design of the RR and other Landrover products was done by the same people who have been doing it for years - mainly Brits in the UK.

I very much doubt that the "germans" had much to do with the design of the seats but senior managers - whether they be Brit or whatever would have signed off on the design after development.

Garry

Ok Garry - I see what you are getting at and that you have little faith in the actual facts. When I pulled my seats out of my '89 RR I can clearly read who built the seat and likewise for my '96 P38 and likewise for my '05 L322. I can tell you that for the L322 it was not a British company!!!! Your doubt appears to stand in the way of the facts!

Just have a look at an L322 like my '05 model and see what is British and what is German - it is far more than just "engines" - a large swag of the truck is German from the ignition key to suspension components to mufflers to ECUs and the list just goes on and on and on.

Your L320 is probably different so don't let that cloud your judgement.

I have my '89 RR Classic Vogue, my '94 LSE Vogue and my '05 L322 HSE all sitting side by side in my shed. The differences are plain to see and I have not had anyone who has compared them state anything but the obvious - each newer model is less comfortable than the previous as regards seats/armrests.

I just hope that the '08 tdV8 L322 Vouge I'm picking up next week has been upgraded by the Brits to the usual RR standard of former years.

Originally Posted by Daniel

Ok Garry - I see what you are getting at and that you have little faith in the actual facts. When I pulled my seats out of my '89 RR I can clearly read who built the seat and likewise for my '96 P38 and likewise for my '05 L322. I can tell you that for the L322 it was not a British company!!!! Your doubt appears to stand in the way of the facts!

Just have a look at an L322 like my '05 model and see what is British and what is German - it is far more than just "engines" - a large swag of the truck is German from the ignition key to suspension components to mufflers to ECUs and the list just goes on and on and on.

Your L320 is probably different so don't let that cloud your judgement.

I have my '89 RR Classic Vogue, my '94 LSE Vogue and my '05 L322 HSE all sitting side by side in my shed. The differences are plain to see and I have not had anyone who has compared them state anything but the obvious - each newer model is less comfortable than the previous as regards seats/armrests.

I just hope that the '08 tdV8 L322 Vouge I'm picking up next week has been upgraded by the Brits to the usual RR standard of former years.

From what I read most people seem to think the later model L322 seats are worse and are narrower or something?

Your right the old seats were good but for mine the L322 (03) I have has to be the most comfy thing I have ever driven seat wise.... I’m simply in my lounge room, actually no my lounge aint that good

Guess we all have different opinions on seats etc


Dave

Originally Posted by bluegreygreen Rangie

From what I read most people seem to think the later model L322 seats are worse and are narrower or something?

Your right the old seats were good but for mine the L322 (03) I have has to be the most comfy thing I have ever driven seat wise.... I’m simply in my lounge room, actually no my lounge aint that good

Guess we all have different opinions on seats etc


Dave

So true.. I have no idea why people reckon the classic seats are better than the L322..theres no way. Seats in my L322 are way comfy compared to any range rover ive been in. Lets just say they are different

Camo

Daniel,

Well following your logic it will be Ford's fault if the seats in the 08 RR are not to your liking and if you were buying a later model it is Tata's fault.

Oh the parts in my car that I have had a detailed look at on my car seem to come from all over the world based on their markings and I assume the RR version is the same.

Gary

The seats in my MY05 TD6 are fantastic. Better than the seats in my older P38. IMO

Gary

hmm I think my P38 seat is more comfy, my now gone 88 classic had the best arm rests, but thats my view and my P38 might feel more comfy as its conformed to my backside over 11 years.

My wife says the L322 is far better than the P38 for seat comfort, and compares the 94 classic to a 60's bedford truck.

I do kinda of miss the velour of my 88 classic, never stung the back of your legs when getting into the car after its been in the sun on a hot day.

I preferred the seats in our previous 03 L322 to our current 08.

The two piece adjustable backrest of the early L322 Vogue spec seats were fantastic and I preferred the previous style headrests.

The 07+ cars lost the multi way backrest adjustment when they moved the side airbags out of the doors and into the seats and the headrests of the new style seats are a bit flat for my liking but they are still very comfortable.