Thread: Commodore into the back of my Rangie at 100km/h

Ah crap, that sucks. Here's hoping you can fix your car. Glad you came out of it ok!

Thank goodness you weren't in a squishy car.

Mate everyone, especially him, was lucky you were moving enough tbat it was only dynamically like he had hit a brick wall.at say 30-40ph...

Cheers

Looks like the Commode did exactly what it was designed to do and saved that young idiot's life. Lucky he was driving that VY/Z and not driving an old Hilux or similar... and lucky it went in on the passenger's side for him... and lucky he didn't have a passenger. Soft squishy part of his car contacts strongest, reinforced part of yours (towbar, recovery point structure, etc) at speed. That's pretty much how it's going to end in a partial offset crash. I was, however, a bit surprised at how ripple-free and still-aligned the side of your RR is after that coming-together. Big hit though. Nasty. Glad everyone survived and it's a story to tell (and possibly a lesson learned?) rather than a nightmare to recount.

the rangey has got to be twisted underneath ... that hit is massive. I'd rather the car explode into a million pieces in a heavy hit (and protect it's occupants).

I hope 5th gear does another test modern range/land rover versus whatever..... Like they did with the Land Rover Disco and tiny people mover .... Because the strength in that Rangies body structure is deeply impressive!

seeya,
Shane L.

More than an idiot, I have traveled that area, and you need concentration, to avoid roo hits etc etc, so driving in the early hours when I presume it is dark, at speed and finding time to Text also, all this multi tasking, I hope he gets a severe penalty for his efforts, I have no sympathy for the idiot. Trouble is after all this he probably still hasn't learned.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

the rangey has got to be twisted underneath ... that hit is massive. I'd rather the car explode into a million pieces in a heavy hit (and protect it's occupants).

I hope 5th gear does another test modern range/land rover versus whatever..... Like they did with the Land Rover Disco and tiny people mover .... Because the strength in that Rangies body structure is deeply impressive!

seeya,
Shane L.

It was an old D1 and Renault Espase (big people mover). Deeply flawed test. Suspect D1 was badly rusted from (UK test) salted roads. Air bag didn't go off in D1 so suspect vehicle damage (chances are it was from a wreckers). Might have been a lot different with a bull bar also to bring into play both chassis rails not just one (It was an offset crash).

D2 was much improved on strength over D1 but I have seen Defenders, D1, D2, D3, RRC in real world crashes and they are all VERY strong and resistant to cabin intrusion (D3 strongest).

Crumple zones are gr8...till they run out...then you are crumple zone.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

It was an old D1 and Renault Espase (big people mover). Deeply flawed test. Suspect D1 was badly rusted from (UK test) salted roads. Air bag didn't go off in D1 so suspect vehicle damage (chances are it was from a wreckers). Might have been a lot different with a bull bar also to bring into play both chassis rails not just one (It was an offset crash).

D2 was much improved on strength over D1 but I have seen Defenders, D1, D2, D3, RRC in real world crashes and they are all VERY strong and resistant to cabin intrusion (D3 strongest).

Crumple zones are gr8...till they run out...then you are crumple zone.

Cheers

Modern cars have massive high tensile crash members to distribute the offset impacts (which the majority of accidents are). All that happened was the little renault was guided into the "soft" areas of the disco... the car went "around" the chassis.... not through a rusty chassis. That massive crash member in the front of the renault cut a path through the "soft" parts and into the cabin. An airbag makes no difference if the cabin is squished and there is nowhere for the disco drivers body

So how would the same test go against a modern range rover that will also have the huge crash member to disperse the offset crashes impact ? It'd be a hell of an impact. modern passenger cars are deeply impressive in the way they crash ( the old disco 1 and range rover classics would crash more like the korean 4wds I'm sure).

seeya,
Shane L.