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23rd September 2020, 08:44 PM
#1
Electric fan TD6
Hello,
i have searched a lot trough various forums.
My electric fan is doing nothing when you switch on the a/c.
A/C is fully working but you notice on red light stops that the air is getting warmer.
Even with 38 grad celsius outside the fan is not working.
What i did:
- Checked fan via tester - working
- Fuses checked, seems OK
- Refrigerant pressure sensor seems to bring valuables that are ok
- Ordered a new fan, same problem, not switching on. Checked via tester - working
So i’m now very aimles. Any ideas what to do next?
Thanks!
Klemens
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24th September 2020, 10:22 AM
#2
I don't think the electric fans operates with the A/C unless the engine fan can't keep up.( on my 2003 td6 seems to work that way) . Mine was low on refrigerant. When was it last serviced.?
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24th September 2020, 07:13 PM
#3
So your fan only kicks in when engine fan is too less?
Does it ever turn on?
Serviced this year while changing the condensor!
Thanks!
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26th November 2020, 09:18 AM
#4
from the manual:
"
Cooling Fan – Td6
Operation of the cooling fan is controlled by the ECM. The ECM monitors Engine Coolant
Temperature (ECT) to determine fan speed. The ECM (C0606) provides a feed to the ECT
sensor (C0169) on an SU wire. The ECT sensor is a Negative Temperature Coefficient
(NTC) sensor. By measuring the voltage returned on an NG wire, the ECM can determine
engine coolant temperature.
When the ATC ECU engages the A/C compressor clutch, the ATC ECU (C1629) informs the
ECM (C0331) via the K bus on a WRY wire that cooling fan operation is required. The ATC
ECU also informs the ECM of the speed to drive the motor. For more information on A/C
operation, refer to the Automatic Temperature Control (ATC) or Automatic
Temperature Control (ATC) – Comfort section of this manual.
+AUTOMATIC TEMPERATURE CONTROL (ATC).
+AUTOMATIC TEMPERATURE CONTROL (ATC) – COMFORT.
The ECM (C0331) now provides a feed to the cooling fan control unit (C0005) on a BG wire.
This is used by the control unit to regulate the supply voltage from maxi fuse 61 of the
passenger compartment fuse box (C0581) on an RU wire.
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The electric fan speed is varied based on refrig pressure, and I am sure it should be running at a minimum slowly when the AC is on and vehicle is stationary when the viscous fan is running - it should be roaring when the viscous fan has dropped off - it is totally disabled over 70kph.
** With diagnostic equipment you can check the refrig pressure, and requested fan speed. If requested speed is >0% and it isn't spinning you have a problem.....
** When the TD6 is started cold the viscous fan is pretty much running at 100% (to remove moisture from engine bay) and it draws a lot of air through, however after the first couple corners it should drop off - stop and check what the Aux fan is doing after the viscus fan has stopped. Without a working aux fan the refrig pressure will be stupidly high.
The Aux fan on the TD6 is a common failure - IMO it is far more complicated than it needs to be, I had heap of problems with it on my old TD6 about 8-9 yrs ago.
L322 3.6TDv8 Lux
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