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Thread: No Sat Nav, reversing camera, radio, clock! Ready to set this Fatty on fire again!

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    No Sat Nav, reversing camera, radio, clock! Ready to set this Fatty on fire again!

    My 2008 4.2 SC V8 is playing up yet again. Any help trying to figure it out would be really appreciated. The facts are:
    1) I had the spoiler and upper and lower tail gates resprayed. Looks lovely by the way.
    2) Drove it away from the panel beater and everything works fine for 5 minutes.
    3) Then all of a sudden the sat nav, reversing camera, radio, clock and all the other features on the heads up display unit stop working.
    4) The heads up just has the land rover logo and the power on/off button is blinking orange. I can't switch it on or off.
    5) Take it back but the panel beater but he has about as much clue as I do as to what has happened. So, I ask them what they disconnected to get the spoiler and tail gates off. I then check that no wires/coaxials have been crushed or just not reconnected. Can't see anything obvious.
    6) The reversing camera has never been fabulous so I checked that with my multimeter. It seems fine but maybe the FARC cable has been damaged? Would that kill everything?
    7) Having said that, there are other units - aerial amplifiers, sat nav units etc... under the spoiler trim - so it could be anything. It's all getting a bit frustrating.

    So, would anybody know 1) why all of the functions controlled by the heads up unit have decided to go on strike together and (b) is there anything else that I should be checking.

    I love paying auto electrician's huge amounts of money (my Dad used to be one in the UK so I'm actually quite fond of them!) but I'd be really grateful if anyone has had this happen to them or can give any advice as to what to do before I take out a second mortgage.

    As always, huge thanks to you all in advance.

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    The modules in the infotainment system in these vehicles are connected in a loop, fibre optic, called MOST.

    If one of the modules in the loop fails to pass on the signal (for whatever reason) then the whole system goes offline.

    In a 2008 L322 fully loaded that list of modules includes;

    Head Unit
    CD Changer
    Touchscreen
    TV Tuner
    Rear Seat Entertainment module
    Navigation DVD drive
    Bluetooth phone module
    Audio Amplifier

    Any one of those offline can take out the whole system.

    The method for testing is to bypass any modules which are optional, using a blanking loop
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    You unplug a module and fit the blanking loop in it's place, which "restores" the loop if that module happens to be the one which was faulty.

    Some modules you can't really bypass; the head unit, which is the master of the network, and the touchscreen. In which case you can only really substitute in another one for testing.

    If you have a suitable diagnostic tool, the head unit (ACM, or FEM, depending on terminology) is on the MS-CAN network, and should communicate. If you have no comms with the head unit then that's possibly faulty. If you do have comms it should give you fault codes like "MOST loop interrupted / incomplete" and possibly listing specific modules in the MOST network that it is not communicating with.

    With an L322 the most common things I've seen are the TV tuner failing, or other modules there in the left side of the boot getting wet. Very rarely is it any of the modules up front like the head unit, CD changer or touchscreen.

    The blinking light on the left side knob is a sign that the MOST is offline.

    There's one other thing, the head unit controls a relay which provides power to many of the other modules in the MOST loop, if that relay is not being activated then you'll have the same result as now. Strange enough I had one 2005 L322 where the wire to that relay was mysteriously broken somewhere between the dash & the fusebox in the boot, random...
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    You're a star mate!

    Cambo - you are a star. Had a play. Pulled a few of the optic cables out. Gave them a bit of a buff. Plugged them back in and, hey presto, everything is back to normal. If you are ever in Hobart, I'll buy you a beer. Very, very happy.

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    Hey cambo,
    Not sure if you missed it but I sent you pm a few weeks back.

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