Thread: Purchasing an L405 from other side of country - keen to hear your experience/advice

Originally Posted by TonyC

If you buy from Victoria.

Vicroads say the seller completes a notice of disposal on the the sellers Vicroads app, to do this they need your Victorian drivers license no. or Vicroads customer no.
I think you then have a few weeks to transfer it into your name, but it's still registered, so you drive it home, cancel/cash in the rego, reregister it in WA.

Vicroads do recommend that a vehicle sold to interstate have it's rego cancelled before the sale, but also say what to do if this was not done.

Just a moment...

If it's not registered then an unregistered vehicle permit, Vicroads state this must be issued in the state the journey starts in.
I would check with SA and WA that the Vic permit is valid.

Just a moment...

If it looks like you might buy in Vic, it's probably worth getting a Vicroads customer number.
Shoot them an email saying what you are doing, ask how you get a customer number and if a Vic unregistered vehicle permit is valid in SA and WA.
I would still check with SA and WA

You won't pay stamp duty in Vic as that is paid when you transfer it into your name.

Tony

I was told I could not get a Vic customer No. ( or drivers licence) unless I could prove I had a Victorian address.

Originally Posted by JL89

Thankyou for that Laurie. Great information. So 2014-16 are cheaper in WA than East? Wow, thats a turn...but will I grow old waiting for one to turn up though?

Have seen a few independants mentioned here so will line them up. Any developments in this space? Is there a goto Independant for Victoria and NSW?

I'll start looking into transport companies now and that tip on suspension locking is a good one. I presume this requirement will seperate the men from the boys when it comes to transporting the car across?

I'd like to drive it back but can't get a straight answer on how to do so without running foul of all the beauracracy across this land. If anyone has WA experience would like to hear it. For example, can I, as a WA resident, buy a VIC licensed car whose rego expires sometimes next year and drive it back into WA? Of course will have the "cover note' in the form of an RAC(WA) policy before I turn on the ignition. Was thinking when I get here I would need to get it WA inspected etc for WA plates and I woud return the VIC plates, for example, before having to pay stamp duty in Vic? But the WA Transport site intimates I need a movement permit that I can only purchase when I cross the border at SA...yep, its confusing...

Anyways, I thought I'd stumbled onto a beauty but turns out despite it being 50k on the clock its only had one service at 40K (and that bizzarely wasnt even recorded on the JLR online service record website???)...I think I'll keep looking.

Enjoying the discussion, thanks again. John.

Hi mate.
Driving a vehicle in WA that is registered in another state is a minefield!
If it was vic registered for instance, you would be considered unregistered as soon as you crossed the border in to WA. You would have to get an Unregistered Vehicle Permit at the border (can be done online) to continue driving west.
I bought my D4 in 2014 from NSW, but I am lucky as I am still on their system there, so I could transfer the rego to my name there, then have it trucked over.

I have even had it explained to me at DoT that an interstate registered vehicle is not considered legal to drive/use in WA if the owner is not in the vehicle! A couple of years ago my father brought over a car trailer for me to keep. I used it for a couple of months until close to when the rego was due, then went to transfer the rego over. Was told in no uncertain terms that as I was not the registered owner of the trailer, it was unregistered, and I would have to get a Permit in order to bring it in to be inspected! When I explained to them that I had permission from the owner to use the vehicle, they look you straight in the eyes and say "that is your risk". I have had multiple people at DoT and Inspection stations say exactly the same quote, so it must be gospel somewhere....

Another consideration is that WA has one of the most expensive Stamp Duty rates in OZ. With the D4 above, it was cheaper to pay NSW Stamp Duty and truck it over than it was to buy in WA and pay WA Stamp Duty....

Chris

Having bought a couple of vehicles over the years that were registered interstate I would try and buy one from your home state if you can, much easier and without as much stress.

I bought D3 in Victoria remotely it’s easier if buying from a dealer. Private would be highly complicated as dealers are used to trucking and you basically factor this into deal. There’s also the dealer inspection factor and it was quite new at the time. I used my relatives address in Victoria to transfer rego to my name and she arrived in WA not long after.

After driving around WA for a year I changed over to WA plates. If you move to WA and bring your car across there’s a simple system to swap rego at a nominal cost. Insurance never an issue as they cover cars anywhere in Australia. There’s lots of theory about dos and donts but cars are moved every day and drive around on out of state plates.

Yes, if pulled over cops will say you need to change plates etc. but we know people who moved back to WA from east and drove for years on the east coast plates.

Originally Posted by TonyC

Just a moment...

If it's not registered then an unregistered vehicle permit, Vicroads state this must be issued in the state the journey starts in.
I would check with SA and WA that the Vic permit is valid.

Cheers Tony, looks like the UVP you pay for in VIC is ok to use upto the WA/SA border because the "buyer" is a resident of WA. At the border you jump onto DoT website and buy the WA version of the UVP which has the idiotic 2day limit imposed on it. I say idiotic because is it really safe to drive 15hrs over 2 days from Border Village to Perth? The other consideration is that Vic will sell you a UVP for $54 valid for 7 days. WA will sell you a 2 day UVP for $31. Interestingly it also appears you can venture into SA and NT from WA with a WA UVP but, given the wording, potentially not the other way around???

Get a temporary movement permit

And people thought Brexit was hard...

Originally Posted by JL89

Cheers Tony, looks like the UVP you pay for in VIC is ok to use upto the WA/SA border because the "buyer" is a resident of WA. At the border you jump onto DoT website and buy the WA version of the UVP which has the idiotic 2day limit imposed on it. I say idiotic because is it really safe to drive 15hrs over 2 days from Border Village to Perth? The other consideration is that Vic will sell you a UVP for $54 valid for 7 days. WA will sell you a 2 day UVP for $31. Interestingly it also appears you can venture into SA and NT from WA with a WA UVP but, given the wording, potentially not the other way around???

Get a temporary movement permit

And people thought Brexit was hard...

The Transport WA web site states.

"All interstate vehicle permits authorising the use of a vehicle on a road will be recognised in WA, provided the holder is not ordinarily resident in WA. This includes any type of permit issued by an interstate authority, such as;

Club permits issued to vintage and veteran vehicles.
Rally permits.
Short term permits.
Temporary movement permits.
Unregistered vehicle permits."

So I, as Victorian, can drive to Perth on Victorian UVP, but you, as West Australian, can't.

You couldn't make this up if you were writing fiction!

Tony

Originally Posted by TonyC

The Transport WA web site states.

"All interstate vehicle permits authorising the use of a vehicle on a road will be recognised in WA, provided the holder is not ordinarily resident in WA. This includes any type of permit issued by an interstate authority, such as;

Club permits issued to vintage and veteran vehicles.
Rally permits.
Short term permits.
Temporary movement permits.
Unregistered vehicle permits."

So I, as Victorian, can drive to Perth on Victorian UVP, but you, as West Australian, can't.

You couldn't make this up if you were writing fiction!

Tony

Yes but in practice there’s no actual problem. Insurance don’t mind which is the main thing.

If you have a friend or relative in the state you are buying in transfer the rego to your name at that address. Car can then be driven anywhere in Australia and insurance is valid.

After you’ve been in WA one year you can transfer to WA plates and not pay stamp duty only a nominal plate charge for people relocating to WA and bringing their car.

Originally Posted by PerthDisco

Yes but in practice there’s no actual problem. Insurance don’t mind which is the main thing.

If you have a friend or relative in the state you are buying in transfer the rego to your name at that address. Car can then be driven anywhere in Australia and insurance is valid.

After you’ve been in WA one year you can transfer to WA plates and not pay stamp duty only a nominal plate charge for people relocating to WA and bringing their car.

Its the VIC TAC or NSW CTP we are concerned about here from what I can tell. Need to be careful about "insurance." Fairly sure I can ring my insurer in WA, and get cover for a car I've purchased in VIC or NSW. But that insurance covers the car if someone hits me or I hit them. Its this TAC or CTP I am concerned about. This is what expires at the WA/SA border, for example, if you buy a car in VIC, get a UVP there and drive it. You will have the VIC TAC (CTP) up until the WA border. At this point you need the WA UVP which gets you the WA recognised CTP from the border onwards...without this form of "insurance" you are unregistered, and I doubt that in the event of an accident, your "car insurer" will pay out on an "uninsured" car...

Enjoying discussion and learning as I go...