The new flagship

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Originally Posted by trout1105

It is a proven Fact that Low profile tyres are bloody useless on a 4WD, NO "Speculation" here old mate.

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I remember the ruckus when the D2 came out with its low profile tyres [emoji41]

Then the D3 on 17s. Oh the horror.
Then the 18s arrived… arrrghhh

Plenty out there getting it done.

Yup plenty have driven all over in Ford or Holden wagon or ute too prior to 4x4s being the conveyance dujour. So really it doesn’t matter what you drive, actually getting out there is what counts.

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Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

We are on the verge of the age of EV cyber trucks where global satellite connectivity presumes global vehicle charging and global EV recovery insurance. The days of pragmatic, egalitarian, independent self-supported remote vehicle travel as we know it are almost over.

We have entered what will be seen in the future as the obsolete cross-over era when ICE vehicles became the generic urban monotype SUV designed not for freedom, but for conforming to the limitations imposed by ICE/EV cross over taxes, EV charging network taxes, fossil fuel restrictions, corporate and government regulation.

Until solar glass and vehicle roof panels are able to independently and adequately charge the new generations of EV, new vehicles in the second quarter of the 21st century will be tethered to the EV charging grid. Fossil fuels will be too expensive to buy.

This ‘new’ Range Rover will be seen as the last of the dinosaurs, hampered by the strangely over complicated combination of fossil fuel burning mechanical lubricity and fragile digital technology combining to provide the last gasp of old tech lumbering along under the weight of impending change.

Between now and sometime between 2030 and half way through the 21st century, any new vehicle that is not an EV will have a very short half-life. Within ten years, this last of the ICE dinosaurs will be worth nothing without a conversion to an electric motor at all four wheels and a solar charging skin. Otherwise it’s dollar value will be scrap.

After 2030 independent travel will be difficult and require ICE exemptions, or huge towable battery packs. The clearance under the pumpkin will be irrelevant.

But there is something more awesome and more independent coming…

By 2050 there won’t even be a network of EV charging points because all vehicles will be truly autonomous, self powered, interdisciplinary, variable ride height cyber vehicles. EVs of that time will be the most reliable (few moving parts), capable, versatile and independent vehicles we’ve ever seen. …unfortunately most of us dinosaurs won’t be alive to drive one. Until then we need to make the most of the bush-ability travel freedoms we have.

The new Range Rover is a dinosaur and was extinct before it was born - four wheel steering and 30cm ground clearance or not. I won’t ever be buying another new ICE car.

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You're a bundle of joy, aren't you? (Rhetorical) [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

We are on the verge of the age of EV cyber trucks where global satellite connectivity presumes global vehicle charging and global EV recovery insurance. The days of pragmatic, egalitarian, independent self-supported remote vehicle travel as we know it are almost over.

We have entered what will be seen in the future as the obsolete cross-over era when ICE vehicles became the generic urban monotype SUV designed not for freedom, but for conforming to the limitations imposed by ICE/EV cross over taxes, EV charging network taxes, fossil fuel restrictions, corporate and government regulation.

Until solar glass and vehicle roof panels are able to independently and adequately charge the new generations of EV, new vehicles in the second quarter of the 21st century will be tethered to the EV charging grid. Fossil fuels will be too expensive to buy.

This ‘new’ Range Rover will be seen as the last of the dinosaurs, hampered by the strangely over complicated combination of fossil fuel burning mechanical lubricity and fragile digital technology combining to provide the last gasp of old tech lumbering along under the weight of impending change.

Between now and sometime between 2030 and half way through the 21st century, any new vehicle that is not an EV will have a very short half-life. Within ten years, this last of the ICE dinosaurs will be worth nothing without a conversion to an electric motor at all four wheels and a solar charging skin. Otherwise it’s dollar value will be scrap.

After 2030 independent travel will be difficult and require ICE exemptions, or huge towable battery packs. The clearance under the pumpkin will be irrelevant.

But there is something more awesome and more independent coming…

By 2050 there won’t even be a network of EV charging points because all vehicles will be truly autonomous, self powered, interdisciplinary, variable ride height cyber vehicles. EVs of that time will be the most reliable (few moving parts), capable, versatile and independent vehicles we’ve ever seen. …unfortunately most of us dinosaurs won’t be alive to drive one. Until then we need to make the most of the bush-ability travel freedoms we have.

The new Range Rover is a dinosaur and was extinct before it was born - four wheel steering and 30cm ground clearance or not. I won’t ever be buying another new ICE car.

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So what you’re saying is yet another of our freedoms and pastimes is about to be forcibly taken away [emoji56]

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Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

Yup plenty have driven all over in Ford or Holden wagon or ute too prior to 4x4s being the conveyance dujour. So really it doesn’t matter what you drive, actually getting out there is what counts.

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Yes - my 90 year old mother has spent most of her life driving on really rough, crap roads in a series of Holdens.

My first trip into the Little Desert was in my Hillman Minx .... also took it to the snow. It had higher profile tyres and more ground clearance than most SUVs these days.

Austin 7 rim size 19" x 3.5"

https://www.australiangeographic.com...and-cape-york/

Never told my Holden 1 tonner that it was not a 4x4 and it happily went a lot of places that some more knowledgeable people said were 4x4 only

Friend drive a Valiant Ute to the top of Cape York and back via the telegraph track yet look how people kit out their vehicles today

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Originally Posted by 3toes

Friend drive a Valiant Ute to the top of Cape York and back via the telegraph track yet look how people kit out their vehicles today

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One of my Brothers did that trip in a VW beetle,about 35yrs ago.The roads were shocking in those days.

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Originally Posted by Tombie;[URL="tel:3117389"

3117389[/URL]]So what you’re saying is yet another of our freedoms and pastimes is about to be forcibly taken away [emoji56]

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Which freedoms have been taken from you Tombie?

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Originally Posted by scarry

One of my Brothers did that trip in a VW beetle,about 35yrs ago.The roads were shocking in those days.

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A friend took her Datsun 120Y to the Flinders Ranges ....