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    new key needed for range rover sport 2024

    I have a friend who has lost both keys for his RRS 2024

    the dealer has quoted 12K to rectify

    does anyone know of other options to fix this issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerialdarren View Post
    I have a friend who has lost both keys for his RRS 2024

    the dealer has quoted 12K to rectify

    does anyone know of other options to fix this issue
    How does someone lose both keys?

    I suggest you google Jaguar/Land Rover programming. There are a few companies around that should be able to reprogram a blank key.
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    A number of aftermarket options are available to program new keys to vehicles at much less than 12k, however they usually (always?) require you to have 1 working key to start with, I think that's where the problem is.

    I have no suggestions other than to look for the keys or at least 1 of them.

    Is the car unlocked already?

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    2024MY has some complications compared to the earlier vehicles;

    Body Control Module (BCM) is locked, can’t be programmed, the module must be replaced to add keys.

    Remote Function Actuator (RFA) is locked, can’t be programmed, the module must be replaced to add keys.

    The keys themselves utilise UWB (Ultra Wide Band) technology, and I’m not aware of any aftermarket keys that have UWB capability. The genuine keys are damn expensive.

    The dealer will also have quoted for a lock set, that’s two new key blades and a lock barrel for the door. Again damn expensive and long lead time from the UK.

    I’d have to check if the BCM & RFA are even on stock in this country. These parts are generally in short supply, between the new vehicle production and cases like this.

    Despite all that, $12K is a bit of a gouge TBH.

    There are cheaper ways out of this, with genuine keys I think we could do it for $8k, with aftermarket keys and some shortcuts on the lock set maybe $6.5k, not including transport costs. Aftermarket keys would be without the UWB functionality though.

    I have a contact just north of the Melbourne metro who can help here. Or you could put it on a truck to Sydney…
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    I like tech, but it's all getting too hard!

    I can understand advancement being made for security, but that seems like tech for the sake of tech and a pretty strong effort to force vehicles back to the dealer instead of independents.

    John Deere got caught with this and the "right to repair" fiasco/lawsuit.

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    This is all about stopping modern criminals stealing your car, more security rather than less I would think....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    This is all about stopping modern criminals stealing your car, more security rather than less I would think....
    Possibly, but it's also likely they would be the first to crack the security!

    More and more companies seem to be trying to find more effective ways to ensure an income stream for a number of years after the initial sale.

    Of course this has always been the case, and I understand it. But can you imagine having to spend 10% of the value of a vehicle to get the keys replaced?

    Not so bad on a $1200 car! But that would still be $120.

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    Does the RRS have a glovebox key? If so, does a lockset include a barrel for it?

    I’m sure a locksmith could make a key from a lock barrel but that wouldn’t get around the security system and immobiliser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shack View Post
    More and more companies seem to be trying to find more effective ways to ensure an income stream for a number of years after the initial sale...
    These vehicles become pretty much un-insurable in the UK because of high theft rates until Landrover upgraded the security system in them. Even Landrover Insurance was declining to insure them at one stage.

    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    Does the RRS have a glovebox key?
    No there is no lock and key for the glove box.


    Anyway... an extract from the workshop manual procedure for reprogramming L461 keys. If you aren’t in possession of working keys and you can't set the TCU into 'service mode' (possibly because you just can't in some markets), then it looks like it gets complicated, probably pretty much along the lines of Cambo_oldjaguar advice above.

    ● To program a new smart key to the vehicle there must be 2 existing already programed smart keys present or the Telematic Control Unit Module (TCU) must be put into 'Service Mode'.

    ● The 'Service Mode' feature is not available in all markets.

    ● This should allow a new smart key to be programed to the vehicle without replacing the Remote Function Actuator (RFA) dependant on the RFA software level it may be possible to program a new smart key to the vehicle without replacing the RFA.

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    ● Before disconnecting power to the vehicle, the owner must place the TCU into 'Service Mode'. The 'Service Mode' disables all alert triggers, except movement alert.
    ...

    ● For security purposes 'Service Mode' is the sole responsibility of the vehicle owner as it requires a Personal Identification Number (PIN) code that has been defined by the owner.
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