Thread: New LR's Make the old ones dated

Jags.I like them,always have.My dad had a Daimler double 6,a bucket of snot XJS V12(rust bucket/mechanical pig import) then an XJ12.
The highlight of going to Albanys Around the Houses this year was getting taken for a few hot laps at lunchtime in RockDrs 6.0l V12 XJ12,man that thing went
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Originally Posted by TerryO

Each to their own but I prefer a Land Rover that actually looks like a Land Rover, meaning standing out from the crowd with its own unique design as every previous Disco (and Defender) since day one has ever had rather than copying the generic common soft roader look of the moment that nearly every other vanilla awd on the market right now has.

Mind you maybe I'm completely wrong after looking at the attached photo and it is Saab that inspired their latest design and not Kia.

Hey Terry, maybe the Discovery 5 should have been a sedan to satisfy you!! The only similarity with all of the cars you have mentioned is that they are some sort of wagon. I wonder how you can make a wagon not look like a wagon when it is one.

Originally Posted by BobD

Hey Terry, maybe the Discovery 5 should have been a sedan to satisfy you!! The only similarity with all of the cars you have mentioned is that they are some sort of wagon. I wonder how you can make a wagon not look like a wagon when it is one.

...not true Bob, you missed one other thing they have in common, they both have 4 wheels.

Originally Posted by BobD

Hey Terry, maybe the Discovery 5 should have been a sedan to satisfy you!! The only similarity with all of the cars you have mentioned is that they are some sort of wagon. I wonder how you can make a wagon not look like a wagon when it is one.

Bob Im not sure why a I have to explain this but every Discovery since day one has been recognisable as a Discovery from D1 to D4, no other wagon ever came close.

I am not the only one to have noticed this, in fact the vast majority of comments on the internet even by many journo's are nearly all making the same comparison and more often then not in a negative way towards the D5. So I am not the only one saying what I am. If you like it the new look that's great but up to now few others are standing up and saying they do. However each to their own.

I have always followed and admired the LR product Lineups. Especially with the disco offering and meeting all our needs for my family - a boxy looking large spacious 7 seater vehicle we can take for drives out of town into the country camping. I have recently been faced with the decision to either wait for disco5 vs purchasing a disco4.

No regrets with my decision purchasing the current disco graphite. Yes it does need a refresh I believe especially it's audio system/nav. But it all prob depends on each circumstances. For me disco4 ticks all boxes.

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Welcome to the forum Paul.

Originally Posted by TerryO

Bob Im not sure why a I have to explain this but every Discovery since day one has been recognisable as a Discovery from D1 to D4, no other wagon ever came close.

Terry, of course you don't have to explain yourself. My comment was a joke and obviously not serious. I know exactly what you mean but now the LR distinctive shape has moved on to a new era which we will have to accept or go Toyota, Territory, Kia or Saab I guess.


There is a good photo on one of the Land Rover web sites which shows a line up of all five models. The D5 certainly breaks the mold as you say. However, to me it is instantly recognizable as one of the latest family of LR vehicles, not a Kia or whatever else we like to dream up.


Anyway, I suppose I must like the shape since I ordered a Discovery Sport a couple of months ago, which I now like to think looks like a scaled down D5. In a couple of years I will probably replace the D4 with a D5, once the D4 is completely worn out from travelling this vast land.

I guess it's up to every individual's preferences.

Personally, I quite like the look of the new D5 back as far as the "C" pillar. From there back - you can take it or leave it - I'd rather leave it. Looks like any number of other common vehicles on the road these days from Korea or Japan or elsewhere - no longer the distinctive look of a Land Rover. Also having owned wagons over the years with single lift-up tailgates, single side opening doors, double side opening doors and split upper / lower tailgates, the D4 tailgate design is by far the most practical.

From what I have read, the D5 definitely comes with some significant improvements and will no doubt perform better in some applications. It also comes with a lot of what I would call "yuppie garbage" though, which only add to the cost of the vehicle and appeal to the "look at me" wannabe's. I mean - who really wants a vehicle that allows you to adjust the seating configuration with your mobile phone (other than Bear Grills).

One thing that I have always believed and have found to be true on many occasions is that a vehicle with a ladder frame chassis or similar is stronger than a vehicle with only monocoque construction. The D3 / D4 having both was the best of both worlds, though at the expense of weight. I have never considered a Pajero a serious contender in the large 4WD market because of its monocoque only construction, and I'm afraid the new D5 drops out of contention for me for the same reason.

I have already read one post by TerryO where "A D4 owner on another forum has mentioned that he recently did a LR factory tour and they had a new model RRS there with a bent sub chassis from being snatched. Suppoesedly the person doing the tour told them that you shouldn't snatch the new aluminium bodied LR's or you risk chassis damage. He recommended that when stuck you need to pull them out slowly without snatching."

Terry goes on to say "If correct then the new aluminium LR's are no longer serious off roaders." On this point, I agree with Terry completely.