Disappointed in the D5 / waiting for the Defender

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Yes something like that. But as many keep pointing out, the proof will be in the pudding, because McGiver is always kinda saying nothing.

How much is McGovern paid to come up with all that waffle about design not being design, and only Defenders being durable...what? and all other Land Rovers are really Range Rovers, etc? Blah

To be fair on the guy, he does only seem to have the interests of those in his own street at heart - Mayfair, or Park Lane, or wherever he lives in London. It's pretty clear that he doesn't go bush...ever.

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I thought the same thing when he was talking at te D5 SVX launch. Here they are promoting a rugged "hardcore SUV" and hes dressed up like charlie from the chocolate factory!

In the fantasy world a brand spanking new d2 for 40k...sign me up. Bargain of the decade. However Storms are available... Les Richmond knows a good offroader when he sees one...

Cheers

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Originally Posted by PAT303

Have you ever driven an RRC?,I love them,but the first thing I'll do when I buy one is take away most of what makes it great off road. Pat

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Certainly have Pat, I bought my '85 RRC about 20 years ago and it's now parked up (deteriorating) in the back yard as I write this. Did about 120,000 K's in it including towing an off road trailer half way round the country including up your way Pilbara and Oakover River area.

Superb off road capabilities though a bit weak in the diffs/drive train and factory suspension a bit too soft for my liking but both on road and off road capability wise still as good or better than those tested. Not bad for a 40 yo (design wise) vehicle IMO. Would have loved to see it in action walking over the 'rock garden', I reckon it could have put the others including the D5 to shame.

Deano :)

That's the trouble Deano,the long wheel travel of the RRC made them outstanding off road but it felt like you'll end up upside down every time you turned on the road. Pat

It's funny...my D1 isn't much different from the RRC. They do lean but manager to handle really well.

Cheers

'Lifestyle Disabling'.

LR used to be an honest company that called a spade a spade and made good products.

Now i dont trust them.

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Originally Posted by ozscott

In the fantasy world a brand spanking new d2 for 40k...sign me up. Bargain of the decade. However Storms are available... Les Richmond knows a good offroader when he sees one...

Cheers

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Storm?

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Originally Posted by ozscott

It's funny...my D1 isn't much different from the RRC. They do lean but manager to handle really well.

Cheers

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The D1 has substantially stiffer coils than the RRC, leans a lot less, is a lot less comfortable, and cant carry any more load due to absence of load leveller.

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Originally Posted by PAT303

That's the trouble Deano,the long wheel travel of the RRC made them outstanding off road but it felt like you'll end up upside down every time you turned on the road. Pat

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I grew up in one and thoroughly enjoyed the comfort and capability, but when i got my licence i just couldnt bring myself to buying one. Always wanted the comfort, but with more composure. Not sure if its ever really been done. Hope to build it myself.

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Originally Posted by rammypluge

Storm?

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Discovery Series 2 1999 - 2004 Extreme

Could spec $120,000 for their D2...

Cheers