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Seriously Pat? I saw my first D5 last week and nearly vomited, thought it was a retarded Territory, The Discovery Sport was even worse and I just cried.[bawl][bawl]Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
I think I will just keep the Defender.
If I buy a new one I will likely be going down the Colorado path at less than half the price or maybe a good second hand D3/4 or RR. Should have bought yours when we were in Newman.
99% of people vomit at the site of a defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigE
Haha...no...cant sell that one Weeds! They have always looked the business and always will. And I don't even have one. The D5 looks like a fat allwheel drive onroader (and if shod with 22 inch wheels really is...)
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I own a heavily modified 110 which gets used for purpose. My mrs is a bit of a girls girl. Shes into everyhting that chicks like and dosent really pay attention to cars. First time she saw the new d5 after i introduced it to her she said: "i dont see how you could take that offraod".
I laughed so hard.
You see we are considering buy a d4 for her, which she loves. Looks like a "luxury" version of the defender she says. The d5 has gone so far away from its origins it is in the same category as the q7, toureg, bmw suv thing, etc in my opinion. You can claim it to be what you want but it isnt a serious off road vehicle, its a glorified "mumobile".
I can take my defender off road and everything single corner is protected by bar work, how the hell are you supposed to avoid panel damage with that thing?
I know its more expensive than my defender, makes more power, has fancy gadgets but id take a d4 over it any day of the week and id take my defender over both!
You blokes all sound like Toybota drivers when some one mentions the Range Rover.My RR walked through the motor X track in Newman as if it was a freshly mowed lawn.The D5 will suit the off road needs of 99% of off roaders. Pat
Pat i dont think i sound like a Toyota driver at all. In all fairness the 79 series would almost certainly meet my offroad needs, not as well as my defender for certian reasons but would do. I wouldn't take a 200 series, prado, fj or kluger off road as a overland vehicle and i wouldn't take the d5, range rover, freelander or evoque either.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAT303
Your probably right it might do for 99% of people, but in my case could i take it up to the power lines at lithgow, monkey gum or watagans and get through without vehicle damage? The answer to that question is no. I wouldnt be able to enjoy my play time as much as i do with my defender. Id be so worried about hitting a bank or rocks that the concentration alone would put me off.
Hands up whos driven a D5 off road?
Hmmmm not many? Me neither
The one person I actually know who has driven both off road has the opinion that the D5 is better on and offroad than the standard D4 by a noticeable margin.
Everyone has their preferences, but I do find it amusing how many people think it will be terrible off road.
I just want to know what you guys are basing 'it couldn't go off road, it's a soft roader, can't do this, can't do that bla bla bla'
Every person that has ACTUALLY driven the thing has said it's great off road and will beat a D4 and all. Why say baseless facts unless you have driven the thing??!!
Right from the outset LR have said they are moving the market for the Disco so I don't know why everyone is getting their knickers in a knot.
Wait for the Deefer.
Me, I drive a new D4, I'm still trying to get my head around the rear, but I love the front and side view and love the new interior. The D4 is completely different from the D1. I wonder how many said the same when the 4 came out. Why don't you wait to drive it 1st before giving it ****!!
I think the global consensus irrespective of off road ability is the looks are not a winner
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In all seriousness I doubt that there will be too many of these new D5's taken into any serious 4WD'ing situations over the next 5-10 years and when they finally do they will have been modified because I can't imagine one of these doing any serious Bush or Beach work the way they leave the showroom floor.
I can just imagine how many of these will end up looking like a stranded turtles this summer when their owners take them down to the beach for the first time on their silly 22inch street wheels and tyres.
With some modifications I can't see any reason why the D5 wouldn't be as good if not better than any other Discovery But straight out of the box I doubt it.