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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Yes, right ... the point here is that MM paid for a vehicle with certain features or functions that in point of fact it doesn't have. In the old days were people happy to pay for things that they didn't actually receive?

    Perhaps he should have checked and not accepted delivery until the system was rectified. As I said, he can take action for recompense under The Sale of Goods Act. Do not use The Motor Dealers Act. This only gives a slap on the wrist and dealers laugh at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    And that’s who the problem is LRA not LR itself.

    LRA builds its options lists for our market, then screws the punters for everything it can 3 Zone Climate Control is not fit for purpose for Australian conditions?

    Dealers can only work with what’s offered here which is sometimes very poor.
    To my way of thinking, any vehicle bound for Oz would have the full suite of a/c options already in place, with the dealer able to turn on or off certain features as required.
    There is a thread here by a member who adds some of the missing functionality to d3/4/RR/RRS. In many cases they only need configuration and/or connecting.
    Is there anywhere in the sales literature that mentions the abilities and/or compromises of the different a/c options? If not, I would be having a very serious discussion with the dealer and demanding (not asking) for some action. Point out the fact that you will proceed under the Sale of Goods Act if no satisfactory conclusion can be reached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    To my way of thinking, any vehicle bound for Oz would have the full suite of a/c options already in place, with the dealer able to turn on or off certain features as required.
    There is a thread here by a member who adds some of the missing functionality to d3/4/RR/RRS. In many cases they only need configuration and/or connecting.
    Is there anywhere in the sales literature that mentions the abilities and/or compromises of the different a/c options? If not, I would be having a very serious discussion with the dealer and demanding (not asking) for some action. Point out the fact that you will proceed under the Sale of Goods Act if no satisfactory conclusion can be reached.
    This thread is essentially pointing out the (vast) difference between 3 and 4 zone climate in the D5, with the latter having extra vents and a second fan. Hardware then, so not easily switched on/off though software, or retrofitted.

    There is some discussion around retrofitting similar functionality to the D4, with the general consensus being: Don't. If it's important to you, buy one with it already fitted. I doubt the D5 will be any different, given the amount of extra 'stuff' required to make it all work.

    I will say, I don't have rear air, but i also don't go wanting for cooling power. I barely use row 3 though...
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    So I went and had another look at a D5... ironically here in Thailand....

    The standard air con does work sufficiently - you just need to close the front vents off a little to stem the flow at high fan speeds.

    It also cooled the cabin quite quickly - noting the one here was tinted so the cabin was easier to keep cool.

    So it is fit for its purpose - those wanting the additional cooling power should consider the 4 zone upgrade (which we have in the D4)

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    To clarify the D3/4 system, the base system has front vents and vents in the rear of the centre console, and I believe some foot vents under the front seats. These all share the same fan and condenser.

    Adding rear aircon gives roof mounted vents and controls to the second row, and pillar mounted vents to the 3rd. Can be synced with the main controls or controlled independently from the roof controls in the second row for temp and fan speed. Has a separate fan motor and condenser in the left rear quarter panel.

    In regards to the OP, in my experience a "zone" is somewhere which the temperature can be individually set, not necessarily the fan speed. If the rear seats can determine their own temp that could be considered a zone, if if there's only one fan unit for the entire vehicle.

    That said my experience is limited to my D3 and some other cars that cost far less than $130k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco-tastic View Post
    To clarify the D3/4 system, the base system has front vents and vents in the rear of the centre console, and I believe some foot vents under the front seats. These all share the same fan and condenser.

    Adding rear aircon gives roof mounted vents and controls to the second row, and pillar mounted vents to the 3rd. Can be synced with the main controls or controlled independently from the roof controls in the second row for temp and fan speed. Has a separate fan motor and condenser in the left rear quarter panel.

    In regards to the OP, in my experience a "zone" is somewhere which the temperature can be individually set, not necessarily the fan speed. If the rear seats can determine their own temp that could be considered a zone, if if there's only one fan unit for the entire vehicle.

    That said my experience is limited to my D3 and some other cars that cost far less than $130k.
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    I wouldn't call the D4 system with rear air 4 zone.
    It has two front zones,one left,one right,and a rear zone.

    There is only one temperature control for the complete rear area.

    Does the D5 have four areas that can be controlled at different temperatures?

    Going on what the OP has said,his doesn't appear to be three zone,if it only has front controls?

    Unless i am missing something

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Evaporater

    I wouldn't call the D4 system with rear air 4 zone.
    It has two front zones,one left,one right,and a rear zone.

    And it works very well.
    I didn't call it a 4 zone. Its a sort of 3 zone as you say. But thanks for the correction on the evaporator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco-tastic View Post
    I didn't call it a 4 zone. Its a sort of 3 zone as you say. But thanks for the correction on the evaporator
    Just edited my post...

    Actually it was Tombie that called the D3/4 with rear air 4 zone.

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    The D3/4 with dual AC feeds..

    LF
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    Rear

    The controls in the middle control the roof above row 2 (zone 3) and the rear row (zone 4)

    Zone 3 still gets air from zone 1/2 also..

    Confusing Hey 3 Zone Climate Control is not fit for purpose for Australian conditions?

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