Thread: Tyres for Disco 5

Originally Posted by Geedublya

You can buy suitable 20” wheels from L494 RRS owners who have swapped to 22” fairly cheap.

Maybe, but the car should come with suitable tyres. You shouldn’t have to fork out for new wheels or different tyres.
Tony

Originally Posted by tony_s

Maybe, but the car should come with suitable tyres. You shouldn’t have to fork out for new wheels or different tyres.
Tony

They are suitable for 90% of the time. Unless you buy a Ranger Raptor, old Defender or about 1 or 2 other brands, all cars have road biased tyres including Prado, Patrol, 200 series etc. it’s been happening forever, even my 1996 Disco had road biases tyres.

Could you not fit 255/55/R19 tyres instead? There appears to be more choice of rubber in that size.

General Grabber AT3
Continental Cros4x4Contact
Hankook Dynapro AT-m
Kumho Road venture AT51
Pirelli Scorpio AT plus
Pirelli Scorpio ATR

And this is just the list from one tyre supplier.

Ron

Originally Posted by tony_s

Hi geckoPK
I agree totally with your comments and have spent a long time on the phone and exchanging emails with the Land Rover CRC about the non-suitability of the Goodyear Eagle AT tyres for Australian conditions. They might be an AT tyre fit for the UK but they certainly aren’t an AT tyre for Australia. In 25000km including about 4000km of gravel roads I have blown the wall on two and split the centre of the tread on another two. It cost me around $1100 to get two new tyres and have them trucked from Melbourne to Tyrepower in Alice Springs. The Beaurepaire dealer there was a total waste of space.
The remaining tyres that have done 25000km are virtually stuffed with lots of chips and about 2mm of tread left.
My Beaurepaire dealer here asked me why I didn’t get decent AT tyres on the car when I bought it!
Land Rover CRC were dismissive and told me that the alternative was “255/55R20 110Q Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac, a tyre that performs well both on and off road”. I thought that is what the OE tyres were supposed to do!! When I reminded them I have 19” rims and would have to spend about $7500 to buy 6 new Land Rover rims if I wanted to keep it original -plus 6 new tyres as well they didn’t even bother replying.
i think it is unbelievable that they market the New Discovery as one of the world’s best 4wds yet do not fit tyres to it to fulfil its purpose. Further, there are no suitable tyres of the correct size available in Australia. I am considering an approach to Fair Trading, although I doubt it will do much good.
Tony

Thanks for the reply, Tony.

We are obviously in the same boat as you regarding suitability of tyres and JLR Aust. We've been in consultation with them , our dealer and JLR UK over the tyre issue of 19" rims for about 4 months now. It would seem to be a clear case of vehicles being sold that are 'not fit for purpose' . We've trolled through all the glossy brochures and can find no reference to the SE with 19" rims being excluded from venturing off-road (ever) because there are no tyres approved by JLR. To their credit, they have been talking to us even though we've had to do the chasing. I think that if a product is 'not fit for purpose' , Fair Trading should take an interest.

geckoPK

Originally Posted by IndusD4

I think the action you should take is to take the car off road with your existing tyres. As you have a new car I doubt you’d want to take it somewhere and risk damage to the bodywork, you would be surprised where the car will take you with the tyres that are on it now.

I have no intention of changing my tyres until they are worn but will happily take it anywhere where I took my old D4 with AT tyres.

Ron

Hi, Ron,

I would love to take the vehicle off road with the OE tyres but, according to JLR Aust, they are "suitable for use on sealed roads and relatively smooth unsealed surfaces". I'd imagine they'd be reluctant to honour warranty work if damage was done if I went, say, to Peachtrees NP here in QLD. The road in is certainly not '....relatively smooth unsealed roads' and neither are many roads that lead to destinations I'd like to venture into.

geckoPK

Hi geckoPK

I understand where you're coming from but I don't see what damage you'd be doing to the car by having road biased tyres. Other than damage to the tyres themselves which I'm unsure you could claim on warranty. My D4 was on it's original Goodyear road biased tyres and fairly worn down but I completed the Advanced 4WD Drive & recovery course without any issues or damage to the car and its systems. Granted, if you're going to play in mud then I agree they wouldn't be suitable at all.

Ron

Originally Posted by geckoPK

We've trolled through all the glossy brochures and can find no reference to the SE with 19" rims being excluded from venturing off-road (ever) because there are no tyres approved by JLR. To their credit, they have been talking to us even though we've had to do the chasing. I think that if a product is 'not fit for purpose' , Fair Trading should take an interest.

geckoPK

Can you ask LR to swap your 19" for 20" to satisfy your unsealed road requirement?

Originally Posted by geckoPK

Thanks for the reply, Tony.

We are obviously in the same boat as you regarding suitability of tyres and JLR Aust. We've been in consultation with them , our dealer and JLR UK over the tyre issue of 19" rims for about 4 months now. It would seem to be a clear case of vehicles being sold that are 'not fit for purpose' . We've trolled through all the glossy brochures and can find no reference to the SE with 19" rims being excluded from venturing off-road (ever) because there are no tyres approved by JLR. To their credit, they have been talking to us even though we've had to do the chasing. I think that if a product is 'not fit for purpose' , Fair Trading should take an interest.

geckoPK

I will be interested to hear how you get on.
Tony