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Thread: Disco Sport Owners: Timing Chain Issues & Class Action Potential

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    News of successful action against LR in AUS for timing chain failure

    I’ve heard second hand today that there has been a successful action against LR in AUS for the timing chain…anyone know anything about this?
    We eventually had the chain etc replaced after having the car off the road for many weeks.
    The second bit of pain in our story was that the front CV joints had also failed. These were previously misdiagnosed by a dealer mechanic as failed front suspension!
    All up the work cost just under $8K at 112000Ks . The LR specialist mechanic who completed the work made the strong recommendation to revert to old school oil changes at 12-15000ks.We have done so.

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    Engine issues 95k kms serviced regularly

    I’m in the same boat definitely keen to join a class action mines failed at 95 thousand kms located in Melbourne has always been serviced at Land Rover rediculous that a car soo expensive can fail just outside the warranty

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    2017 disco sports Engine Light - Timechain

    I have a 2017 LR discovery sports recently display engine check light. After the service at LR dealer Essendon, they got my car for further diagnosis (for a fee about 3.5k) with the possibility that we can put in a claim (for engine replacement) from LR.
    Today the dealer said I had to replace the Timing Chain in order to do the diagnosis. Waiting for their quote.
    Is the class action ongoing? How can I join?

    Thanks
    Eric

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    I had the same issue at around 110,00km with my 2016 disco - LR told me that the timing chain needed replacing and advised some stupid $$$ figure to repair. I told them that as I had bought the car from them, had always had it serviced by them and had always followed their service recommendations and actions that I will not pay for it to be repaired - outcome was that it was fully repaired by LR under goodwill.

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    My quote is 6500

    Quote Originally Posted by FiReBosS View Post
    Hi Guys,

    Have anyone got update for this? they asked me 2300AUD to change the timing belt
    Where is this? My quote is 6500 at Comet in Brisbane.

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    How much?

    Quote Originally Posted by eric2017ds View Post
    I have a 2017 LR discovery sports recently display engine check light. After the service at LR dealer Essendon, they got my car for further diagnosis (for a fee about 3.5k) with the possibility that we can put in a claim (for engine replacement) from LR.
    Today the dealer said I had to replace the Timing Chain in order to do the diagnosis. Waiting for their quote.
    Is the class action ongoing? How can I join?

    Thanks
    Eric
    Just got this issue too. My quote is 6500

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    Hi mate, sent you an email. I've had the same issues.

    I've sent you an email
    I have the same issues.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Bayley View Post
    I recently encountered a significant problem with the timing chain of my vehicle (Land Rover Discovery 2015) , resulting in the need for repairs. I took my vehicle to a reputable local mechanical repair center for a diagnosis, and the diagnostic report revealed three codes directly associated with the timing chain issue. Throughout its lifespan, my vehicle has been properly serviced. After consulting with the chief mechanic at the repair centre and conducting my own research, it is evident that the timing chain should endure the entire life of the engine, at least surpassing the mileage covered by my vehicle (122,979 km (at the time of writing the complaint email to Land Rover).


    The diagnostic report displays the following codes related to the timing chain problem:



    • P0505-27: Idle Air Control System
    • P0341-00: Camshaft Position Sensor A – Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 1 Or Single Sensor)
    • P0316-00: Misfire Detected On Start-up (First 1000 Revolutions)



    The remaining codes shown in the diagnostic report are either directly or indirectly linked to the timing chain problem. Given the prolonged duration of this issue, it is highly likely that it may impact other systems, such as the fuel system and CAN Bus communication.


    Following legal advice, I have learned that I have the right to take action under section 271 of the Australian Consumer Law for breaches of consumer guarantees, despite having purchased the vehicle from a private seller.

    I have contacted Land Rover but unit now they have not made any genuine efforts to resolve the matter.


    I am aware of a class action lawsuit regarding timing chain problems in LR4 and Sport models in the United States against Land Rover. Based on my understanding, the main engine specifications across the Land Rover model line are very similar, if not identical, suggesting that engines installed in various models should be treated equally, with minor or insignificant differences.


    After a legal consultation, it was revealed that a class action can be initiated in Australia if multiple plaintiffs face the same/similar issue with their vehicles, provided that the defect is attributed to the manufacturer's responsibility. It does not matter whether the problem was fixed at an earlier stage; financial compensation from Land Rover can be sought to cover the repair costs. In my opinion, as a Land Rover owner experiencing the same/similar issues, it is important to stand up and fight for our rights.


    If you are also facing timing chain issues with your Land Rover Discovery Sport model, please contact me by providing your details below or email to thomas.bayley100@gmail.com.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

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    Class Actions mounting up.

    If this timing chain class action proceeds it would be the fourth class action I'm aware of that's progressing against JLR relating to this car and others in JLR's stable.

    1&2: There are two class actions relating to Oil Dilution / DPF issues, of which my 2017 car is a poster child having had many, many very expensive components fail and renewed over it's 70,000 km of (JLR tested & confirmed) non adverse "driving style".
    3: There is an extended warranty class action (got me again on that one).
    4: And the timing chain one would make the fourth.

    Anyone know of any others?

    The two Oil Dilution / DPF related ones are being combined, by order of court, but the two separate class action lawyers are now arguing with the court over who should carry the case forward. Case MAY move forward in 2024, and then take lord knows how long until JLR pay up.

    Meantime resale values have plummeted, seemingly due to the Ingenium experiment we all participated in.

    Strangely I do still love my Disco Sport guzzler, when it works, but JLR really should buy the pos back.

    A 6/17 car that, having only ever had full oil services every 7 months (max) or 8,000km then turns around and demands a DPF regen the day after a 950km trip at an average speed of 103kph?
    A car that in 7 years has been back to the JLRA approved dealer well over 20 times?
    A car that was sold a few days before JLR released a Service Compliance Notification (JLRP00100) around oil dilution & engine failure?

    JLR P00 seems apt hey.

    Yep, it's a defective car, and I own one too.

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    Commence class action

    I am interested in joining / have already made enquiries to commence a class action… People vs JLR for timing chain failures in Australia.

    We have just had a catastrophic engine failure due to timing chain instantly snapping on our LANDROVER Discovery Sport. We were simply driving down the road and our car lost power. No warning lights, no sounds, in fact no indication of any issues at all.

    Towed to JLR dealer/service centre where we purchase the vehicle 3 years prior and that’s when our troubles really began.

    Our local car sales /service team and JLR refused to pay for any repairs. We also discovered that the extended warranty sold to us by JLR dealer voids timing chains and any surrounding damage caused by timing chain failure.

    Our car that was worth $40,000AUD 3 years ago…is now worthless. A replacement engine is at least $20,000 and current resale is only $20,000.

    I am absolutely taking matters further. How JLR and our dealer/extended warranty company expects us to simply walk away from $40,000 just due to missing a single service is the definition of unjust.

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    Class Actions

    Quote Originally Posted by beachfamily View Post
    I am interested in joining / have already made enquiries to commence a class action… People vs JLR for timing chain failures in Australia.

    Our car that was worth $40,000AUD 3 years ago…is now worthless. A replacement engine is at least $20,000 and current resale is only $20,000.

    I am absolutely taking matters further. How JLR and our dealer/extended warranty company expects us to simply walk away from $40,000 just due to missing a single service is the definition of unjust.
    Not that it should matter unless the engine has been mistreated & done WAY excessive km but how many k's on yours @beachfamily?

    fyi, the oil/dpf class action I mentioned earlier is currently closed to new people joining, I guess whilst the judge & legal firms figure out which firm will proceed. Google "jaguar land rover dpf class action" and maybe keep an eye on the Maurice Blackburn site to see progress & when/if it reopens.

    Insurance renewal tells the story of how swiftly our cars are depreciating due to these issues.
    Mine reduced from +$52k agreed value last year to $40k market value this year (yet renewal still went up +20%) and a quick look at car sales shows $40k is very generous.

    Good luck. Keep us posted.

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