Thread: L660 or L663

Originally Posted by scarry

I can guarantee in Western Qld you won't see an LR product very often,if at all.Maybe the occasional tourist vehicle, but thats it.

With the nearest dealer,or for that matter,any mechanic that knows something about them,somewhere between 500 to 1000K's away,why would anyone bother?

Once over the Great Divide,its T country and thats it.

LR will never get into the regional market,and they definitely aren't trying,producing a crop of look alike Range Rovers that are targeted at city people.

As for the new Defender,who knows,but i doubt regional buyers will be interested in it,no matter what it is like.

Just because dealers are not there yet, it doesn't mean 1 car is better than the other or more reliable, it just means they are easier to fix in that area and easier to buy.

Big call on the regional buyers, and putting all regional buyers into 1 basket is a massive generalization.

Originally Posted by Summiitt

Vehicles in bush areas are purchased based on distance to dealerships..Landrover has very average coverage in the regional towns, unlike Toyota and holden..
The Landcruiser 79 is a very basic and good package, and sales show that the price, despite being absurd, is paid because you can still get 15-20years of service out of them..and they have no competion at that price.

With a track massively(4inches!) different front to back, an alternator that fails on nearly every decent offroad trip, no auto option,2700rpm @ 110kph, fake snorkel, bad handbrake..all fixable but you must add all that onto the purchase price if you want to use it offroad properly. Above is already around 35-40k.

Real price new is 100k, thats before you start the real mods

125k easy with mods

Or just get this

2018 Mercedes-Benz G-Class Professional Wagon on sale in Australia | CarAdvice

Some new project numbers not seen before

Long wait for Aussie Land Rover Defender - motoring.com.au

Its project number is L851 and there will be the usual plethora of body styles, as well as a battery electric model before 2025.

The model line-up is expected to include a Defender Sport, codenamed L860, and the mechanical package will be built around a modern aluminium architecture with independent rear suspension.

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Haha..real work ute, define that please

Seen plenty of farm owners etc with new land rovers, evoques and disco sports for wife etc..new landys are not p38s, they are hugely more dependable if maintained properly.

By 'maintained properly' do you mean preventatively replacing pretty much every component of the vehicle every 5 year period?

Originally Posted by nick_e

By 'maintained properly' do you mean preventatively replacing pretty much every component of the vehicle every 5 year period?

In Land Rover terms that means going to a good Indie.

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Some new project numbers not seen before

Long wait for Aussie Land Rover Defender - motoring.com.au

Its project number is L851 and there will be the usual plethora of body styles, as well as a battery electric model before 2025.

The model line-up is expected to include a Defender Sport, codenamed L860, and the mechanical package will be built around a modern aluminium architecture with independent rear suspension.

Maybe there are only going to be wagons,nothing at all about a utility of any type.

They could be thinking the utility market,particularly dual cabs,is way too competitive?

If JLR Aus look like taking orders end of year,that isn't really a long way off.

Originally Posted by nick_e

By 'maintained properly' do you mean preventatively replacing pretty much every component of the vehicle every 5 year period?

Nah just as per service manual, and not when something goes wrong.

Some people wait for stuff to go wrong, others prevent it happening in the first place, with any car that starts with finding its from the factory issues and rectifying them or improving them.

Originally Posted by scarry

Maybe there are only going to be wagons,nothing at all about a utility of any type.

They could be thinking the utility market,particularly dual cabs,is way too competitive?

If JLR Aus look like taking orders end of year,that isn't really a long way off.

Old article but interesting, if the defender takes off like velar and ipace (some are saying ipace is better than tesla) are, I would say the defender will branch out into every possible varriant MLA allows and thats commercially viable.

2019 Land Rover Defender ute

If you look closely at the wagon mules the camo could be hiding a ute even, also consider some dont have spare wheel on back, why? Wild theory but could be a fake rear door and surround with ute under it.

Another article just speculation.

"What we don’t know, and what Land Rover seems to be denying at this stage, is the possibility of a Defender ute sometime in the future. With the Defender wagon switching to the aluminium monocoque platform, a ute may have to be constructed on a new and unique traditional separate chassis platform; so it could be some years away yet, if it comes at all."

This one seems more certain, a lot of articles talk about a large range of body styles, if its popular they will come, but 110 and 90 first i think.

"We've been busy gathering more details on the new Land Rover Defender, codenamed L851 and due on sale in showrooms in 2020 - bringing the world-famous-but-dormant nameplate back from the dead. It is now certain that Land Rover will launch a Defender Sport model, as well as myriad bodystyles - and a battery electric version is in the works too, slated for launch in 2024."