Thread: Won’t be retro...

Originally Posted by goingbush

see, my point exactly. Really mate, you believe anything a Motoring Journalist writes, The Gullible will lap these things up, And regret it .

As the man in the article said, with a hybrid there's no range anxiety. Same goes for range extender electrics. But a pure electric? No, that won't be the case until there are chargers in every town and charging them takes no longer than filling the tank now.

The situation for full electric cars now is like it was for ICE cars in the early 1900s: they were a novelty, you couldn't get fuel everywhere - it was often sold by chemists - and so on. Cars were designed like horse carriages but without the horse (like now - why does the Tesla S have such a long bonnet? The electric motor doesn't need all that space, it's just modelled on what's required for an ICE). Things will change, but not that quickly I suspect.

Hybrids are really the most complex & ridiculous waste of resources, why buy one at all, the electric stuff is taking up space & eating into your GVM, Make your mind up, you want long range , buy an Internal Combustion, Want efficiency buy electric.

Seriously, why do people make out range anxiety an Electric Car thing.

More than 800,000 drivers a year run out of fuel | Daily Mail Online

Originally Posted by blackrangie

Its a study by Roy morgan from 50,000 people not made up mate

Yep that reliable source got the Election result spot on too I see.

JLR talks up Land Rover Defender safety | GoAuto

Would certainly hope it’s 5 star rated when all but the base model Kia Ceratos are. (And they comes with a 7 year unlimited KM warranty too 😉 ).

Would expect everything in the LR range to be for what they charge.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Would certainly hope it’s 5 star rated when all but the base model Kia Ceratos are. (And they comes with a 7 year unlimited KM warranty too ).

Would expect everything in the LR range to be for what they charge.

From an engineering point of view, Its easy to make a family sedan 5 star safety rated its much harder to make a true blue offroader 5 star safety rated as Jeep continues to find out. The juggling act with the new defender would not have been easy by any means,offroad,onroad,efficiency,safety,comfort,cap ability, utilitarian, durability & reliability..ugh my head hurts.

All the Japanese manufactures seem to manage it ok.

Hilux - 5 Star
70 Series - 5 Star
Ranger - 5 Star
BT 50 - 5 Star
Triton - 5 Star

Euro too
Amorak - 5 Star
G Wagon - 5 Star

Not sure why Jeep struggles - maybe because it’s a ****box?

Don’t see why a Land Rover should be any harder in this day and age - they should romp it in, no excuses if they can’t.

Originally Posted by Homestar

All the Japanese manufactures seem to manage it ok.

Hilux - 5 Star
70 Series - 5 Star
Ranger - 5 Star
BT 50 - 5 Star
Triton - 5 Star

Euro too
Amorak - 5 Star
G Wagon - 5 Star

Not sure why Jeep struggles - maybe because it’s a ****box?

Don’t see why a Land Rover should be any harder in this day and age - they should romp it in, no excuses if they can’t.

3 of the popular 4x4s amongst Solid axle Lovers in 2019

Jeep JL 1 star

Suzuki Jimny 3 star

Toyota Landcruiser 79 series dual cab "untested" & unrated (most likely 3 star like old single cab)

I agree given LR's reputation in the past with safety, they should gain 5 star, however it is far from easy to achieve especially with a fold back roof imo.

4X4 Safety: Do you think twice? - Pat Callinan's 4X4 Adventures

Originally Posted by blackrangie

JLR talks up Land Rover Defender safety | GoAuto

Interesting:

Defender will come in a wide variety of body styles to cater for an equally wide variety of customers, from serious off-roaders to mining companies and tradies.

So, you can expect SUV-style wagons, a long-wheelbase troop carrier, ute and cab-chassis variants in both single and dual-cab configurations in a range similar to Toyota’s extensive LandCruiser line-up.


Australia is expected to be one of the largest export markets for the vehicle, partly due to its long history here.