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Hilarious how these new Defender threads always end up here :)
Just thought I'd post figures for my 2011 D4 V8 5.0...for interest's sake.
This is since my last sevice.
Driving has been about 60% city 40% highway.
This is obviously not at the pump but I've found the usage figures to be about 5% out.
Enjoy :)
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XM...w1750-h1313-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ci...w1750-h1313-no
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/C_...w1750-h1313-no
Specs for those that appreciate extra info:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon
D4 v8 5L HSE
276kw
510nm
2473kg kerb weight
They're very good figures. I'd imagine you've had a big fat "0" in regards to fuel issues being a pertol???
Godwin's law - WikipediaQuote:
Originally Posted by Cannon
The way I see it a discussion will always veer off track at some stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by veebs
Well back in this one I voiced my opinion as to what current vehicles I consider to be "hd" and in the same category as the old defender. As soon as I was asked to expand on my idea of "hd" the discussion was always going to go off on a different tangent.
The trick is bringing it back to the original topic; therefore the question remains as to what did we possibly learn from our tangent conversation?
Easy;
That pertol engines are more reliable than modern diesel engines to a degree simply due to the lack of emissions crap hanging off the engine and that everyone has their own opinion as to what constitutes fuel economy. Whilst most people hope the new defender is much like the old with a modern touch up I'd love a new one with a pertol v8 450hp/650nm and hydraulic suspension, 33s, big cargo bay and a minimum 800kg payload. That's never going to happen but eh...... wouldn't it be fun!
Judging by the pics we're going to get some watered down version of the original d4 that is bound to be a glorified school bus...MO!
Hope I'm wrong
We've all been fired up by photos of a Disco, taken in 2012.
We've been had yet again.
Some more spy shots:
2020 Land Rover Defender SWB spy shots
There may be some extra panel covers disguising the shape, but there's no escaping the small load space at the rear.... it's a bobtail Defender! Hmm
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It's interesting that they have re-introduced the Series 1 bonnet catches! [biggrin][thumbsupbig][bigrolf][tonguewink][wink11]
...Looking again at these supposed spy shots of the new Defender, I'm increasingly unimpressed. It looks like a small, chopped D4!
Unless there is a serious amount of fridge box cardboard padding over the new svelte Defender body, it is looking very lame to me.
I came across this quote by Solmanic on the G Wagen blog (because I was looking at how awesome the new G is while remaining faithful to the original) and it confirmed my thoughts about how hopeless Land Rover have been updating the extraordinarily iconic Defender. Their entire approach has been pathetic.
Well said Solmanic:
"This new model just highlights how badly Land Rover are cocking up their Defender replacement program. Here Mercedes have been able to produce a new vehicle that is unmistakably a G-Wagen but on a majorly overhauled platform, and bring it to market without a break in production. By contrast, Land Rover have stopped production of the original Defender, lost several commercial & military contracts in the process, have presented a weak prototype of the replacement that was universally panned, and still have no real advice on what the actual replacement will be or when it will be on sale! And this was the spiritual bedrock of their entire company."
Which proves LR don't give a rats about producing a Defender type vehicle.
All they want to produce,as i have said before, is Range Rovers in different shapes and sizes for the yuppy market.
Good luck to them,theres nothing we can do about it except move on to a vehicle that suits our needs.
As for heritage and soul,it will gradually disappear as well.
