Thread: Some better spy shots at last!

Didnt LR muck around with a 9 speed auto that had 3 low range gears included,, spruiking a single range vehicle that had low range capabilities?

The Range Rover Evoque has a 9 speed auto.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

The Range Rover Evoque has a 9 speed auto.

In those Defender spy shots it doesn't look much bigger than an Evoque Especially if it's inside a fridge box!

Are the spy shots the 3 door, so the five doors would be bigger?
I actually don't mind if the new Defender looks a bit like the D4, which I like.
It would certainly distinguish it from the curved shapes of the D5 and D Sport, which I also like, but for different reasons.
Range Rovers already have their own look.
People complain vehicles all look the same, so it would be good to have some variations in styling.

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

Didnt LR muck around with a 9 speed auto that had 3 low range gears included,, spruiking a single range vehicle that had low range capabilities?

The 9 speed ZF auto only suited vehicles with East/West engine position.

Originally Posted by scarry

Which proves LR don't give a rats about producing a Defender type vehicle.

All they want to produce,as i have said before, is Range Rovers in different shapes and sizes for the yuppy market.

Good luck to them,theres nothing we can do about it except move on to a vehicle that suits our needs.

As for heritage and soul,it will gradually disappear as well.

He's right you know.



IMHO, the current range of Land Rovers are an insult to aesthetics.


They had a definitive shape in the P38 & were instantly recognised as Land Rover/Range Rover & surely all the latest "whizzbang" electronics are not necessary ( ie.'Tyre Monitors' I read about here giving trouble) FFS you can tell if your tyre is deflating & if you do a 1st Parade Inspection or kick around just like the early days you did with a S2 ) & from what I can gather from reading most of these posts are a huge pain in the bum. I often think my olde D1 Facelift was/is the last of the LR vehicles that could actually be worked on by the Owner with a modicum of mechanical knowledge, but of course the Stealers would object to that.

I know, I know, Yuppies wouldn't/couldn't do that.
Now days they all look the same, so what is the sales advantage? None.

Why should it take an exaggerated time to remove a plastic engine panel or change a light bulb that I have read about here from time to time?

Nope, I'm afraid they have lost the plot.

With the official reveal apparently coming on the 27th (UK time), Christmas morning still feels like it's a couple of days away. But as I'm sitting here waiting for my kids to wake up – apparently there is something positive to be said about teenagers! – I'm reading some LR things and a thought occurs to me:

The Defender is said to be focused on reliability. Looking at those spy shots I notice the position of the muffler, transverse at the rear, and imagine what would happen if the tail dragged on a steep exit. Having recently had the rear plastic bumper damn near ripped off my D4 in a situation like that, I like the way the Defender muffler would act as a kind of bumper cum bash plate! Sure you don't want to smack it around too much, but it's OK if it gets a bit roughed up and ultimately it's expendable and easily replaced.

Merry Christmas, all.

Originally Posted by TB

With the official reveal apparently coming on the 27th (UK time), Christmas morning still feels like it's a couple of days away. But as I'm sitting here waiting for my kids to wake up – apparently there is something positive to be said about teenagers! – I'm reading some LR things and a thought occurs to me:

The Defender is said to be focused on reliability. Looking at those spy shots I notice the position of the muffler, transverse at the rear, and imagine what would happen if the tail dragged on a steep exit. Having recently had the rear plastic bumper damn near ripped off my D4 in a situation like that, I like the way the Defender muffler would act as a kind of bumper cum bash plate! Sure you don't want to smack it around too much, but it's OK if it gets a bit roughed up and ultimately it's expendable and easily replaced.

Merry Christmas, all.

So after 70 years they have.......no i won't go on