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Originally Posted by weeds

Yawn.......think I’ve heard it all before.

If you read my post I said I would have shelled out some more dollars........oh and the defer is a keeper, although if I find a few spare dollars

My current defer only has one door per side, no different to a troopie and the troopie has way better rear access

Doubt a cruiser would be noiser than mine.

Wouldn’t say the defer seats are great...although they seem to do the job

Mulgo does pop top conversions as well which I believe is excellent....remove the blinkers and click on it one day

Fuel doesn’t overly worry me....troopie comes standard with more than double the fuel capacity

Part time v full time....din’t bother me when I had a 40 series or my old 80’s era hi-lux or my current hi-lux.

I’ve ditched the suspension in the defer as it didn’t suit....yet don’t even run coils anymore , I reckon there is a suspension setup that would suit a troopie and me

I’ll be able to compare a number of troopie poptops to mine in the coming months, good chance I will get to drive a troopie.

I guess I choose to drive what suits me....sorry if it bothers you, enjoy you defers.

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It doesn’t bother me at all Weeds. What you do is entirely up to you. My opinion is just that, my opinion. Just trying to be helpful. ...But it seems to really bother you!

...Yawn? We’e all heard all the arguments before ...both ways. In fact we hear the PRO Tojo argument a hell of a lot more! It’s even more predictable. LOL

Best wishes man. Get a Tojo if it suits you better. Or stick with your Defender if you love it. All good.

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Originally Posted by weeds

Haven’t spotted one defer yet.

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That's because they are all offroad doing big laps, not driving to get their showstoppers rectified. [emoji6][emoji1787]

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Originally Posted by scarry

At least there are dealers in regional areas.....[biggrin]

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Because they need them [emoji8]

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Originally Posted by manic

Looks like its about to break in two

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Imagine that on a hill, no thanks.

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Originally Posted by scarry

:zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::Thump:

Oh well,here we go again[bighmmm]

And just remember,Weeds,they have that many showstopping issues,you will need a sat phone to call for help if you ever go off road.And it won’t be long before you have the local towie on speed dial

Oh,and the raised air intake isn’t waterproof,just in case you didn’t know.[bigrolf]

Although the wading depth is 700 mm,which is 200 mm deeper than you have been used to with the deefer.

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Most 79series owners would expect a snorkel to be a snorkel for water as per marketing (If you do a decent silty or muddy crossing even at 700mm the wave generally would come over bonnet in the bonnet vent, leaving muddy water in valley and eventually wrecking your starter. Water wave would also go over snorkel and suck water in leading to potential engine damage.

500mm of the same would ruin the diff height alt, even if just a muddy road. Toyota should update to "700mm Wading depth possible" *300mm advised to avoid damage.

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Originally Posted by scarry

What?

Amazing,it actually 'drove' off without assistance?:eek2:

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Im guessing was on the blacktop [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by weeds

Haven’t spotted one defer yet.

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That’s right, you’ll hardly see and Defenders across the majority of the continent. It’s Toyota country.

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Originally Posted by Zeros

That’s right, you’ll hardly see and Defenders across the majority of the continent. It’s Toyota country.

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Actually, there are many places where landrovers are more popular than any other vehicle and for good reason.
"You'll hardly see" is a stretch, there are 1000s of owners on here that tour with them all over the country, not just going from worksite to worksite.
Toyota has great marketing with an emphasis on reliability.
However of late even hardcore toyota fans are beginning to wake up with all the fundamental flaws of the 79 series the factory continues to ignore, then there's the "unbreakable" hilux breaking down all over the country, getting more recalls than ever, lawsuits pending re: DPF decacle.

Not saying any car is better than another and landrover have their issues too. just pointing out than toyotas have issues just like any other brand. Is a built 79 an overall better 4x4 then a late fender, i don't think so from the facts, however beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and that has to be respected.

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Originally Posted by rar110

Is that the pic with vehicle covered partly?

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...30f239b9b4.jpg

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That must be the "Saudi Wives" model!!!

A little revealing. The rear end is not fully covered.