All new defender

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Originally Posted by weeds

If I was in a position to choose between the last of the defenders and a 70series to pack up and do a lap it’d be a 70 I reckon.

Based mostly on feedback from an ex AULRO member that had an 06 defender which meant say is nearly the best defender to purchase.

I have a 2000 defender and a 2014 hi-lux....the hi-lux has done 160k and the defender 100k....the hi-lux hasn’t had a spanner on it, the defer on the other hand........pretty sure I know why Land Rover will never compete with the big players going forward.

Oh my defer is a keeper.....now that’s it’s set up. In hindsight I should have shelled out a few more and went with a troopie

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A 2000 model troopie? Straight six guzzler tin can.

- You’d be using twice the fuel 18-22L / 100km
- The engine mounts,gearbox and diffs were very susceptible to reality g
- Rough rear horse and cart springs
- Only part time 4x4.
- No side door access without an ugly and expensive third door mod.
- Very poor seats and noiser inside.
...and your poptop conversion would look terrible compared to the excellence of Mulgo’s Defender conversion.

My Defer is basically standard with some accessories, has had the clutch replaced, has done 130,000 Ks and will be doing the big lap later this year. And it only uses 10.5 l/100 kms. And it only cost $36,000. Why would I buy a 70 series?

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Originally Posted by Zeros

A 2000 model troopie? Straight six guzzler tin can.

- You’d be using twice the fuel 18-22L / 100km
- The engine mounts,gearbox and diffs were very susceptible to reality g
- Rough rear horse and cart springs
- Only part time 4x4.
- No side door access without an ugly and expensive third door mod.
- Very poor seats and noiser inside.
...and your poptop conversion would look terrible compared to the excellence of Mulgo’s Defender conversion.

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Yawn.......think I’ve heard it all before.

If you read my post I said I would have shelled out some more dollars........oh and the defer is a keeper, although if I find a few spare dollars

My current defer only has one door per side, no different to a troopie and the troopie has way better rear access

Doubt a cruiser would be noiser than mine.

Wouldn’t say the defer seats are great...although they seem to do the job

Mulgo does pop top conversions as well which I believe is excellent....remove the blinkers and click on it one day

Fuel doesn’t overly worry me....troopie comes standard with more than double the fuel capacity

Part time v full time....din’t bother me when I had a 40 series or my old 80’s era hi-lux or my current hi-lux.

I’ve ditched the suspension in the defer as it didn’t suit....yet don’t even run coils anymore , I reckon there is a suspension setup that would suit a troopie and me

I’ll be able to compare a number of troopie poptops to mine in the coming months, good chance I will get to drive a troopie.

I guess I choose to drive what suits me....sorry if it bothers you, enjoy you defers.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

My Defer is basically standard with some accessories, has had the clutch replaced, has done 130,000 Ks and will be doing the big lap later this year. And it only uses 10.5 l/100 kms. And it only cost $36,000. Why would I buy a 70 series?

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Maybe......because they don’t interest you??

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Originally Posted by Zeros

A 2000 model troopie? Straight six guzzler tin can.

- You’d be using twice the fuel 18-22L / 100km
- The engine mounts,gearbox and diffs were very susceptible to reality g
- Rough rear horse and cart springs
- Only part time 4x4.
- No side door access without an ugly and expensive third door mod.
- Very poor seats and noiser inside.
...and your poptop conversion would look terrible compared to the excellence of Mulgo’s Defender conversion.

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:zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::Thump:

Oh well,here we go again[bighmmm]

And just remember,Weeds,they have that many showstopping issues,you will need a sat phone to call for help if you ever go off road.And it won’t be long before you have the local towie on speed dial

Oh,and the raised air intake isn’t waterproof,just in case you didn’t know.[bigrolf]

Although the wading depth is 700 mm,which is 200 mm deeper than you have been used to with the deefer.

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Originally Posted by scarry

:zzz::zzz::zzz::zzz::Thump:

Oh well,here we go again[bighmmm]

And just remember,Weeds,they have that many showstopping issues,you will need a sat phone to call for help if you ever go off road.And it won’t be long before you have the local towie on speed dial

Oh,and the raised air intake isn’t waterproof,just in case you didn’t know.[bigrolf]

Although the wading depth is 700 mm,which is 200 mm deeper than you have been used to with the deefer.

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Just got back from a run around Tamworth.....must have spotted 20+ 70 series, all seemed to be motoring along quite well.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I've actually driven an iLoad and it was pretty average. The engine was gutless and had to be towed uphills, brakes were spongy, the body boomed and needed insulation and the seats were hard. It also took me a long time to find the jack, which was pretty ordinary to use, when it got a flat tyre (not its fault).
But hey, no vehicle is perfect.

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Guessing it was a petrol one. The turbo diesel is a little rocket

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Originally Posted by weeds

Just got back from a run around Tamworth.....must have spotted 20+ 70 series, all seemed to be motoring along quite well.

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Obviously patched up by one of the many dealers in cooee. Or not.

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Originally Posted by rar110

Obviously patched up by one of the many dealers in cooee. Or not.

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Haven’t spotted one defer yet.

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Originally Posted by rar110

Obviously patched up by one of the many dealers in cooee. Or not.

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At least there are dealers in regional areas.....[biggrin]