It’s Land Rovers Prado ...Spotted the other day, remarkably similar shape to the ‘new’ Defender:
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It’s Land Rovers Prado ...Spotted the other day, remarkably similar shape to the ‘new’ Defender:
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Rivian 26-degree breakover angle, with some slightly larger aftermarket tyres it would match the 130 breakover angle ( the 130 is extensively used for off-road and expedition use)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red90
130 is 27.5 degrees breakover.
Defender 250mm ground clearance
Rivian ground clearance 360mm but drops on freeway and access.
Rivian weight 2.5 tonne with 800kg payload
Most 4wds by the time they are capable are around this figure and gvm is over 3 tonne.
To be honest who cares about 2.5 tonne when you have 14000 Newton metres of torque. That's pretty much the equivalent of 4 or 5 Mack Trucks isn't it?
0 to 100 in 3 seconds which means it gets all that torque to the ground.
I'm sure the new defender based on the mule pictures will smash rivian out of the park on approach, departure and break over angles.
650km electric range is insane will get you a lot of places in Australia already without all the planned infrastructure that will be available by the time these cars drop.
As stated previously elsewhere by someone else I would be very interested to know what type of options there are for charging electric vehicles at remote campsites.. even if it was something as big as a rooftop tent that you had to carry.. it would effectively mean your range would be Unlimited and you could go anywhere without the fear range anxiety.. it might mean at this point you would have to stay at a campsite for 2 days before moving on for your next leg of the journey but that's not the worst thing in the world is it.
I will be talking to a reputable mobile solar company next week so I'll post up what I find.
Haha..crazy similarQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
Clearly you do not know real off roading and how those figures really apply.
Haha..well i guess 360mm ground clearance, full sealed underbody skid plates, 14000nm of torque, very long travel independent suspension, 1m wading, good approach, departure and breakover, factory compressor, power outlets, large luggage capacity and the fact that's its built for offroad means that Rivian got it all wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red90
ClearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Red90
Or slightly more accurate, half a Mack truck. [bigrolf]Quote:
Originally Posted by blackrangie
Clearly he’s put more effort into working through the figures than you have - would be happy for you to explain your thoughts on it to be honest because rebuking someone’s figures or thoughts without supplying your own doesn’t hold any water in my book. Not saying you’re wrong, as I personally don’t understand what may matter or not in ‘real’ off-roading, so I look forward to your explanations on why the Rivian wouldn’t be any good off road or touring. Big call with zero backup of your statement IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red90
mate , can you point me to this? afaik Land Rover have verified nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red90
None of the other BLOBS they sell at present look 'great' they just look like the same blobs any manufacturer could pump out .Quote:
Originally Posted by blackrangie
