2020 Defender - Current Defender / Series Owners Thoughts...

I'm not a current or former defender owner, so won't be posting on this thread......

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Originally Posted by irondoc

I'm not a current or former defender owner, so won't be posting on this thread......

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

Until / unless they release a 130esque Ute I really don’t care.

I would never own a 110 with the poxy little door into the load space
How the hell is that useful?

I’m not holding my breath that the “new defender” will have:
-HD ute option
-have a tray (not a tub) minimum 1800x1800 and dual cab
-NOT weigh 2.8Tonnes empty
-must be able to eat a tonne in the tray plus load in then cab
- must have a steel bull bar with winch

I’m guessing zero from five

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Here's the 130 replacement [biggrin]

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/f...3Fquality%3D85

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Originally Posted by Robmacca

Here's the 130 replacement [biggrin]

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/f...3Fquality%3D85

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You bought a Jeep? [emoji6] nice render!

Looks tuff and a lot to like about the new jeep, however a few problems for the gladiator.

Mainly terrible rampover, departure and 1star safety.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l660-defe...ml#post2898965

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Very impressive! Any tips on how you have kept it running so long?

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Just fix things as they need it. The engine has had front and rear seals replaced, a new sump gasket, and an exhaust manifold gasket. Has had problems with both starter and alternator, thermostat replaced several times. Probably needs the injectors checked now. Did them about 150k, and was told I'd wasted my money.

But as Homestar says - its an Isuzu. Change the oil regularly, feed it clean fuel, don't let it overheat too often, and it just keeps going. That is the plus side. The minus is (literally) rivet loosening vibration at idle, and not all that much power. The torque is none too high, but is available over an impressive range.

May not do a million kilometres, but should do 750k without serious issues. I have a stretch of road that I do up hill from a standing start on the way home from town, and check where I can reach 100k accelerating flat out. This indicates performance has not dropped noticeably in the last 25 years.

Rest of the vehicle sort of keeps up. consumables such as tie rod ends, brake pads (two sets) rear brake drums, three sets of linings, handbrake lining, transfer case seals, clutch, hydraulic parts, steering box, steering column U-joint, two sets of shocks.

McGovern I believe said hilux killer in the earliest conversations about it
I had a chuckle then but didn’t even look at sales numbers?

Time will tell

I’m betting they don’t even release a Ute first up 🤦*♂️

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

McGovern I believe said hilux killer in the earliest conversations about it
I had a chuckle then but didn’t even look at sales numbers?

Time will tell

I’m betting they don’t even release a Ute first up [emoji1751]*[emoji3603]

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Might be more capable than a hi-lux....but won’t kill off the hi-lux nor will it covert hi-lux owners.

I recon my hi-lux will still be more value for money the the all new Land Rover.......hence why they are king of fleet.

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

McGovern I believe said hilux killer in the earliest conversations about it
I had a chuckle then but didn’t even look at sales numbers?

Time will tell

I’m betting they don’t even release a Ute first up [emoji1751]*[emoji3603]

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I tend to agree, but might be surprised, time will tell [emoji1417]

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Hey Colin, good question, as above I didn't say I was right or helping(that's up to each individual to decide if they feel helped in some way), same is true for everyone until the fat lady sings, however most of what I and others have put up regarding the New Defender in "wont be retro" thread and here is based on either JLR on record comments or something factual or reasonable and not just made up for fun, we are happy to stand corrected on any point, for you to add your personal findings or research or for you to point out anything you disagree with and ill relook at it for us when i get a chance.

Its great to see opinions of defender owners here, some are sold, others are optimistic about the new defender, some are undicided, yet others will drive their series for life and that's all good.

Maybe also in regards to help, some might find it helpful to be challenged as to what they believe is correct, as i am by others, others not so much.

Point is to try to show eachother respect regardless if we agree with opinion and enjoy this time in history discussing the new defender. [emoji41][emoji1417]

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I'll sit on the sidelines while the self appointed 'experts' discuss further.

Colin

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Originally Posted by gromit

I'll sit on the sidelines while the self appointed 'experts' discuss further.

Colin

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No worries either way matey, would love to get your thoughts though if and when you feel comfortable, Im certainly no "expert", just relaying info to help others and myself pass the time whilst we wait, wait and wait some more.