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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    Haha, I think that's been posted before, rings a bell.The world is changing in ways and at a speed that us mere humans cannot predict, manufacturers must adapt or die.
    Was in a shop the other day and they had "a globe of the world". It was round!!!Gosh, every day is a learning experience for me.

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    Did you notice how much bigger Australia is on a globe than on a flat map? And Canada is just enormous!

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    Few interesting comments on Landrovers Youtube channel

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    There's a fair few scoops in here from Topgear, and quoted JLR comments, also pics I believe have not been seen before.

    Ten things we learned about the new Land Rover Defender | Top Gear

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    coil and air sprung?

    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    There's a fair few scoops in here from Topgear, and quoted JLR comments, also pics I believe have not been seen before.

    Ten things we learned about the new Land Rover Defender | Top Gear
    hey i see in point two they say "both coil and air sprung" - does this mean there's a non air suspension option?

    Edit - doh read point 3.. air is optional.. cool.. did we already know that?

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    Yes mate. Quite a few test mules had coils. In the Top Gear article LR say there is not much in it in ability between tbe 2 but that cannot be correct when the going gets tough. Hi speed dirt sure.

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    Im guessing an embargo was lifted on this and everyone invited is now releasing articles. Will be Retro

    First ride: 2020 Land Rover Defender prototype | Autocar

    “Compared with the hardware you’ll find on a Range Rover or Range Rover Sport,” Deeks explains, “there are reinforced suspension subframes, as well as new stronger suspension arms, ball joints and bushes. We’ve got bigger wheel arches, more suspension travel, more wheel articulation and more ground clearance than on any other Land Rover. This car was designed to exceed the usual Land Rover capability targets that our other models are engineered up to. And it has been engineered for better durability and reliability than any car that Land Rover has ever made.”

    Wheels will vary from 18in to 22in, with both all-terrain and mud-terrain tyres on the options list and bespoke ‘terrain response’ traction control software tuned to make the most of the extra off-road ability those tyres offer.

    “The suspension hardware is related to the stuff on those other cars, but it’s very differently applied and tuned,” Deeks goes on. “Steel coils are standard fit, air suspension is optional. But we’ve got special controls monitoring the adaptive dampers, for example, to ensure they don’t overheat when working really hard. If you have the air suspension, we reckon the car is better able to keep its wheels on the ground and its body clear of obstacles than it would on rigid axles anyway.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post

    “The suspension hardware is related to the stuff on those other cars, but it’s very differently applied and tuned,” Deeks goes on. “Steel coils are standard fit, air suspension is optional. But we’ve got special controls monitoring the adaptive dampers, for example, to ensure they don’t overheat when working really hard. If you have the air suspension, we reckon the car is better able to keep its wheels on the ground and its body clear of obstacles than it would on rigid axles anyway.”
    18" rims.. that's ok - 17" would've been nice but I can live with 18"

    I like the idea of no air suspension to go wrong.. but yeah I also like the idea of the car pushing a wheel down without solid axles to keep its grip on Australia.. hmmm

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    Will be RetroWill be RetroWill be RetroWill be Retro The fact that the LR guy driving the new one reckons the old one was strong off-road because it couldn't be driven fast off road like the new one with stir a few feathers Will be RetroWill be RetroWill be Retro

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    Will be RetroWill be RetroWill be RetroWill be Retro The fact that the LR guy driving the new one reckons the old one was strong off-road because it couldn't be driven fast off road like the new one with stir a few feathers Will be RetroWill be RetroWill be Retro
    I know if i drive a standard RRC faster than a certain speed stuff starts to break, shock mounts, shocks, bumpstops, springs, links etc, so the speed discussion imo has merit.

    A huge amount of modification and money must be spent to drive a defender or any classic solid axle LR fast offroad without breaking stuff and throwing you out the window.

    Fair point imo

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