Thread: New defender haters gonna hate..........

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

A Car mag report said prices in the UK will start at 40,000 pounds for the 90 and 45,000 for the 110, while a commercial version will start from 35,000 pounds. Will be interesting to see how they price it in Oz. CarAdvice is predicting from $50-60,000 but also talks of $70,000 upwards.
2020 Land Rover Defender revealed, priced from $70,000 | CarAdvice

This story has some interesting information.
The electrics are rated to IP67, which means they can be submerged for an hour.
Also details of 170 factory accessories, including a bullbar specifically designed for Australia.
LR will also offer a factory wrap to protect the paintwork from scratches.
2020 Land Rover Defender: 50 things you need to know

Oooooh, Mike, a nice little retirement pressie there, mate!

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

A Car mag report said prices in the UK will start at 40,000 pounds for the 90 and 45,000 for the 110, while a commercial version will start from 35,000 pounds. Will be interesting to see how they price it in Oz. CarAdvice is predicting from $50-60,000 but also talks of $70,000 upwards.
2020 Land Rover Defender revealed, priced from $70,000 | CarAdvice

This story has some interesting information.
The electrics are rated to IP67, which means they can be submerged for an hour.
Also details of 170 factory accessories, including a bullbar specifically designed for Australia.
LR will also offer a factory wrap to protect the paintwork from scratches.
2020 Land Rover Defender: 50 things you need to know

So that puts the ute to bed,almost.
Also no V8,but never say never
June sale date in Aus,it was formerly announced as February.
Bull bar for Aus,that will be interesting

Prices,so around $80K on road for 110,5 seat.
Add a few extras,even some aftermarket,and it will get to $90K easy,probably more, like just under $100K,which is what i guessed.

Need a bigger diesel for Aus,it won't be a high seller without.
Cant see grey nomads that tow, jumping from a V8 diesel,with a huge fuel tank,to a 2L 4 cyl,and a smallish fuel tank in a hurry.
The 2L isn't very frugal either,by reports from D5 owners.

Overall,though i like it,can't wait to see one in the flesh,and with a bigger diesel

I am waiting until the commercial version will be released, ideally as special edition in 'Wilks Bros'-livery as shown at the revealing event

I hate the haters

Originally Posted by Jojo

I am waiting until the commercial version will be released, ideally as special edition in 'Wilks Bros'-livery as shown at the revealing event

I like it. It looks smart and modern.
The old was the old and the new the new. Move on.
I hope they do do a commercial / tradie / poverty pack edition which will prob keep the "hose it out brigade" happy.
But in the meantime, all the modern safety stuff saves lives.

To all the move with the times crowd....I agree with the sentiment.

But to label this new offering a Defender is pure marketing BS and mildly delusional. However I can see how that would appeal to the people, who for whatever reason, won't own a Defender.

I like it, I think it's what the Disco should have been, because lets face it the current Disco was 'refined' to suit a more urban user.

For us it will be an appropriate replacement when the wife's Pajero hits 350k, but I'll be pulling the Defender lettering off and sticking some Discovery ones on........bet I wont be the only one to do that!

This is interesting!

Stopping power

There is no mechanical link between the brake pedal and the brake discs. Instead the Defender gets a brake-by-wire system claimed to provide more “precise, linear brake pressures”. Engineers also say the electronic braking system helps with off-road traction due to the ability to better regulate braking to each individual wheel.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

This is interesting!

I'd love to try it but saying it's more linear than a conventional system?
You can't get much more direct/linear than the force you directly apply to the MC affecting the pistons in the calipers....

I can see it being advantageous from a TC POV and from a high speed perspective you will be able to generate higher brake forces faster in an emergency.
Most people don't hit the brakes near hard enough initially in panic stops.

Or it could be good when doing laps of the 'Ring.....