Thread: The New Defender: Diesel vs Petrol

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Europe yes - not Australia.

Some manufactures have recently dropped the petrol models in their line up,for the Aus market.

Its interesting that with modern LR's,petrols are way more expensive than diesels,but with some other manufacturers,the $ difference has always been the other way around.

Originally Posted by scarry

Some manufactures have recently dropped the petrol models in their line up,for the Aus market.

Its interesting that with modern LR's,petrols are way more expensive than diesels,but with some other manufacturers,the $ difference has always been the other way around.

Wrong most manufactures are dropping diesels.

Most European manufacturers are going away from diesel and most won't have a diesel option by 2030 as most major European country's are banning them. Pertol hybrid and ev will be all that is offered.

New euro emissions legislation will kill diesel in the medium term
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Originally Posted by 1nando

Wrong most manufactures are dropping diesels.

Most European manufacturers are going away from diesel and most won't have a diesel option by 2030 as most major European country's are banning them. Pertol hybrid and ev will be all that is offered.

New euro emissions legislation will kill diesel in the medium term
Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

What i meant was commercials and 4x4's.Didnt explain myself properly

In Aus,as i said.

Have a look at the Ranger,BT50,Hilux,Prado,LC,Colorado range,to name a few.Some of those model runs have recently dropped the petrols in their range completely.Others have very few petrol models availably,probably as they simply don't sell well.

Patrol is the exception.

What they do in Europe is for a totally different market to us,and so is the car market compared to commercials and 4X4's.But it will eventually probably filter down here.

Why anyone would buy a small car in a diesel is beyond me,even a few yrs ago before all the diesel issues appeared.

Originally Posted by scarry

What i meant was commercials and 4x4's.Didnt explain myself properly

In Aus,as i said.

Have a look at the Ranger,BT50,Hilux,Prado,LC,Colorado range,to name a few.Some of those model runs have recently dropped the petrols in their range completely.Others have very few petrol models availably,probably as they simply don't sell well.

Patrol is the exception.

What they do in Europe is for a totally different market to us,and so is the car market compared to commercials and 4X4's.But it will eventually probably filter down here.

Why anyone would buy a small car in a diesel is beyond me,even a few yrs ago before all the diesel issues appeared.

The euro emissions regulations are what the manufacturers build too. They will affect us here like they always have in the past.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Europe yes - not Australia.

Was referring to the widespread and well publicized issues with diesels in oz across multiple manufacturers

While European based diesels might start to dry up because of the the EU rules, Asian based diesels will continue to reign supreme in both heavy haulage and 4wds in Aust and most other non European countries and has been discussed a bit lately, while we love our LR product, Asian 4wds reign supreme here and of course Toyota are revising (reducing) their petrol line ups and not the other way.

They’ll all be making way for 100% hybrids and EV’s by 2030.

Both straight diesel and petrol private vehicles will then be obsolete.

I would’t buy a new vehicle now unless it was a hybrid.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

While European based diesels might start to dry up because of the the EU rules, Asian based diesels will continue to reign supreme in both heavy haulage and 4wds in Aust and most other non European countries and has been discussed a bit lately, while we love our LR product, Asian 4wds reign supreme here and of course Toyota are revising (reducing) their petrol line ups and not the other way.

The Toyota dropped the 4.7 petrol v8 in cruiser cause no one buys it. They should have the 5.7 v8 out of the lexus 570 and tundra in there instead, that makes much more power but they're tight ar$es who don't like offering much in the way of value. What's even funnier is that it was the most reliable LC in the lineup, fact.


Yes in Australia they have been reducing some of the petrol options because people have this love affair with diesel here however in time you'll see petrol become the mainstream fuel as manufacturers like Mazda, nissan, Toyota are all designing and testing new petrol engines capable of competing with diesel on economy. If you go on YouTube watch "engineering explained", has some great videos.