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    Interestingly, the new Defender has a slightly wider load space between the arches than the D4 and only 24mm less at the opening. It obviously loses out in both length and height by about 187mm and 123mm respectively. No sleeping in the back if you're taller than 5'10" and susceptible to the odd leg cramp in the middle of the night.

    If the back seats can be rolled forward as suggested earlier it should be able to take fridge and drawers side by side like the D4 but how much legroom would have to be sacrificed will have to be seen. obviously it would be fine if only two were travelling....seats folderd plenty of room.

    The only other thing would be whether or not the side opening rear door would hinder either a fridge or drawer from being pulled out properly

    Load Space D4 110 Delta UOM
    Width 1235 1211 -24 mm
    Between Arches 1146 1160 +14 mm
    Height 1027 904 -123 mm
    Length Up 914 914 mm
    Length Folded 1950 1763 -187 mm
    Volume Up 1260 1075 -185 Ltr
    Volume Folded 2558 2380 -178 Ltr
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Interestingly, the new Defender has a slightly wider load space between the arches than the D4 and only 24mm less at the opening. It obviously loses out in both length and height by about 187mm and 123mm respectively. No sleeping in the back if you're taller than 5'10" and susceptible to the odd leg cramp in the middle of the night.

    If the back seats can be rolled forward as suggested earlier it should be able to take fridge and drawers side by side like the D4 but how much legroom would have to be sacrificed will have to be seen. obviously it would be fine if only two were travelling....seats folderd plenty of room.

    The only other thing would be whether or not the side opening rear door would hinder either a fridge or drawer from being pulled out properly

    Load Space D4 110 Delta UOM
    Width 1235 1211 -24 mm
    Between Arches 1146 1160 +14 mm
    Height 1027 904 -123 mm
    Length Up 914 914 mm
    Length Folded 1950 1763 -187 mm
    Volume Up 1260 1075 -185 Ltr
    Volume Folded 2558 2380 -178 Ltr
    Cheers for the math, i confirmed tilt and slide function like D5 is only for 5+2 versions, so if you need that, get that option, rip out the back two seats, get a little more payload to "boot" New Defender Accessories

    Sleeping in back, is that with front seats forward, im tall over 6ft and just fitted diagonally in the back of my old 89 SWB RRC, remember the seats also fold behind front seats so you loose that room.

    Length looks like an LSE RR at least behind front seats, so surely it would get pretty close for tallies like me?

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    ...1763mm is very short behind the front seats - no sleeping. Rooftop tent only.

    So the 130 is probably only 1900mm?

    Hmmm ...will Mulgo do a poptop on the ragtop 110/130? That is the big question!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed View Post
    ...1763mm is very short behind the front seats - no sleeping. Rooftop tent only.

    So the 130 is probably only 1900mm?

    Hmmm ...will Mulgo do a poptop on the ragtop 110/130? That is the big question!
    Is there a good pic of the ragtop....I’m sure there are companies looking at options.

    Given the vehicle is designed for a rag top I wonder if the roof can be cut in a hard top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by W&KO View Post
    Is there a good pic of the ragtop....I’m sure there are companies looking at options.

    Given the vehicle is designed for a rag top I wonder if the roof can be cut in a hard top.
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    It annoys me the proper recovery rear eyes are only X items, they are a part number on spec list and i bet bolt holes are there on non x models.

    Pretty sure recovery eyes were seen on 90 in moab etc, this structural pic of 90 has eyes.

    Or maybe im wrong and X has different rear chassis?

    Non X gets the screw in eyes like Discovery or tow hitch recovery eye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed View Post
    ...1763mm is very short behind the front seats - no sleeping. Rooftop tent only.

    So the 130 is probably only 1900mm?

    Hmmm ...will Mulgo do a poptop on the ragtop 110/130? That is the big question!
    I'd expect the 130 to be at least equivalent to the D4.

    The specs on the LR site put the 110's length at 5018mm but that's with the spare. According to the leaked details months ago the length without the spare is ~4758mm and the 130 is supposedly 5100mm. So, possibly 342mm extra, if all of which is translated to additional load space then 2105mm floor with seats down is possible.

    All educated guesses though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    Interestingly, the new Defender has a slightly wider load space between the arches than the D4 and only 24mm less at the opening. It obviously loses out in both length and height by about 187mm and 123mm respectively. No sleeping in the back if you're taller than 5'10" and susceptible to the odd leg cramp in the middle of the night.

    If the back seats can be rolled forward as suggested earlier it should be able to take fridge and drawers side by side like the D4 but how much legroom would have to be sacrificed will have to be seen. obviously it would be fine if only two were travelling....seats folderd plenty of room.

    The only other thing would be whether or not the side opening rear door would hinder either a fridge or drawer from being pulled out properly

    Load Space D4 110 Delta UOM
    Width 1235 1211 -24 mm
    Between Arches 1146 1160 +14 mm
    Height 1027 904 -123 mm
    Length Up 914 914 mm
    Length Folded 1950 1763 -187 mm
    Volume Up 1260 1075 -185 Ltr
    Volume Folded 2558 2380 -178 Ltr
    That's good info Sean. It would be interesting to also compare these numbers to the Prado and particularly the 76 wagon. I've been trying to find these figures online, but stuffed if I can find them.

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    That's the point I've made several times in various threads, Land Rover put all the good stuff in the expensive models. Tow eyes are not expensive and could be made available on lower spec models but they won't do it to force people up the model ladder.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the screw-in type screws into a plate that is bolted on to the chassis in the same way the "cool" one is. If so then certainly some aftermarket options possible there in the future or a parts order from the UK might be the go. Just a little mod the to bumper may be required.
    Quote Originally Posted by blackrangie View Post
    It annoys me the proper recovery rear eyes are only X items, they are a part number on spec list and i bet bolt holes are there on non x models.

    Pretty sure recovery eyes were seen on 90 in moab etc, this structural pic of 90 has eyes.

    Or maybe im wrong and X has different rear chassis?

    Non X gets the screw in eyes like Discovery or tow hitch recovery eye.
    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    That's the point I've made several times in various threads, Land Rover put all the good stuff in the expensive models. Tow eyes are not expensive and could be made available on lower spec models but they won't do it to force people up the model ladder.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the screw-in type screws into a plate that is bolted on to the chassis in the same way the "cool" one is. If so then certainly some aftermarket options possible there in the future or a parts order from the UK might be the go. Just a little mod the to bumper may be required.
    Bumper looks the same on both but could be wrong, if bolt holes are the same, ill order the X recovery eyes part number if i don't get the X. But yep i think that will be a quick aftermarket fix.

    Rear x recovery eyes are 9t, front 6t

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