The New Defender

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Originally Posted by SBD4

They did say that if the wrap was damaged, it could be replaced by the dealer but I think you'd be hard pressed to have them do it under warranty. They will no doubt consider it a wear and tear item unless they expressly guarantee that it can't be damaged.

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Agreed however if there is a defect like it coming off or fading etc, it would both be covered by warranty and Australian consumer guarantee.

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

That's a lot more prominent than a snorkel or wind deflector.

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Agreed

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

This is an interesting one if you line up the photos of the competition in Australia I would say the new defender looks the toughest by far and the others in comparison look soft.
The new defender is going to stand out bigtime imo.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7035ef4207.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0839f21627.jpg
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When you put them all side by side, it’s a no brainer although that grill is still doing my head in. I do have an uncontrollable urge to take out a large loan for some reason though...

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Agreed however if there is a defect like it coming off or fading etc, it would both be covered by warranty and Australian consumer guarantee.

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From a defect perspective, yes 100% agree.

God damn it! I think I’m in love! Can’t seem to get a drive away price on my IPad for the build I did but it’s not like I can afford it either (I don’t think - have never really borrowed money for a car like this but you only live once right?)

Will play the waiting game but I think I could just about live in my Caravan if it meant I could own one... 😆

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

I'm not convinced that the box is even legal in Australia - the law permits roof-carried loads to be wider than the roof line but that's for temporary loads, not a permanent fixture on the side of the vehicle. With the exception of the Perenties (and which technically probably isn't legal in any case) I can't think of any other vehicle on the Australian market that tries to load stuff on the side of the vehicle.

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If it's not legal then JLR won't offer it as an option in Aus.
If they do, then you know it's legal.

Can't get any simpler than that.

ps. you've never watched videos of 4WDers, or so called adventurers, to see the way they've kitted out their vehicles.
90% of them seem to have mounted stuff on the sides of their vehicles .. usually Maxtrax or fold down tables or whatever.

As for the idea that there is a law that prevents loads from being carried on the sides of vehicles .. that puts all the glass fitters in the country out of business.
Never seen one that didn't carry the sheets of glass on the side of their vehicles ... or more accurately over the sides of their vehicle .. that is covering the rear wheels.
I know there are specific provisions for those classes of vehicle bodies, and the allowances for them to be loaded.

So overall .. I don't think the ADR regs will hinder the availability of that option.
Although .. that doesn't mean I'm a fan of the idea.
Why they couldn't have designed a better rear door mounted setup is beyond me!

Looks to me to be a case of pandering to the pretenders .. the typical urban off roader .. you'know ... the big wheels, bullbars, lights, winch .. every conceivable option/accessory, never used .. not even understood!
For these types, that load box will look the goods .. so must have!
A better designed version would have had the spare less centrally mounted, closer to the door hinges for less wear on them, and a small pack somehow arranged beside it, under it, above it .. or whatever.

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Originally Posted by AK83

If it's not legal then JLR won't offer it as an option in Aus.
If they do, then you know it's legal. Can't get any simpler than that.

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Unfortunately JRA simply may not have turned their mind to it, or relevantly, the minds of their internal or external legal counsel, so them offering it at present isn't proof that it's legal. I've seen plenty of examples of companies doing things that turned out to not be legal.

I agree though that it looks like it's intended to appeal to the "overlanders" that I see on OS websites.

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Originally Posted by AK83

As for the idea that there is a law that prevents loads from being carried on the sides of vehicles .. that puts all the glass fitters in the country out of business.
Never seen one that didn't carry the sheets of glass on the side of their vehicles ... or more accurately over the sides of their vehicle .. that is covering the rear wheels.
I know there are specific provisions for those classes of vehicle bodies, and the allowances for them to be loaded.

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Yes, I think I saw discussion one time that there's a formal or informal exemption for glaziers. And they're not really on the side of a vehicle, just extending outside what's normally permitted on a tray.

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Originally Posted by blackrangie

Think you answered your own question there, there is no permanent load it's a fixture just like a snorkel, awning, ladder, flare, wind deflector.

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Land Rover feel it's pretty permanent by the sound of it.
"PLEASE NOTE: Once fitted, the exterior side-mounted gear carrier and bracket are not intended to be removed from the vehicle."