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TB · 9th August 2021, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I had been waiting to see some good comparisons , now that there are some newly released competitors, the Defender doesn't look that good

What other wagon could you buy in Australia, in factory/brand spec with no "second stage manufacturing" or third party accessories, to better a new Defender for travel off the bitumen? And in what way would it be better?

I don't think it's as cut and dried as you're making out. Some of the differences you're likely to highlight are easily addressed. Others are deeper design decisions that are just characteristic of the different vehicles and people will decide which factors matter enough for them to choose one vehicle over all the others.

**ramblingboy42** · 9th August 2021, 10:37 AM

Defend the Defender......

**Geedublya** · 9th August 2021, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Defend the Defender......

I thought it was a fair question.

**grey_ghost** · 9th August 2021, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I spent some time in you tube whilst in lockdown and looked at a number of comparison tests against several late 4wds.

After the hype , salutations , excessive reviews...not to mention excessive cost of the Defender I expected to see it run away from the other vehicles on comparison.

Quite the opposite.....it rated poorly and as soon as the tracks got serious it was being beaten hands down.Embarrassingly so for you Defender fanatics.

It won comfort and road manners by miles , but was let down poorly by wheel/tyre combinations . Now a lot of you will protest , but this is the way Land Rover presented their vehicle straight out of the showroom , just like the others were. This is the way Land Rover intended their vehicle to be driven....no excuses.

If I had a L663 Defender and knew that at least 3 other new entrants in the 4wd category could clearly walk away in tough going I would trade it in , considering the premium price paid for the Defender.

I had been waiting to see some good comparisons , now that there are some newly released competitors, the Defender doesn't look that good .

If this was the 4wd olympics , Defender wouldn't get a bronze.

It’s pretty simple isn’t it? You don’t like the new Defender - fair enough, but why bang on about it. Just scroll on by and ignore it.

**100inch** · 10th August 2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I spent some time in you tube whilst in lockdown and looked at a number of comparison tests against several late 4wds.

After the hype , salutations , excessive reviews...not to mention excessive cost of the Defender I expected to see it run away from the other vehicles on comparison.

Quite the opposite.....it rated poorly and as soon as the tracks got serious it was being beaten hands down.Embarrassingly so for you Defender fanatics.

It won comfort and road manners by miles , but was let down poorly by wheel/tyre combinations . Now a lot of you will protest , but this is the way Land Rover presented their vehicle straight out of the showroom , just like the others were. This is the way Land Rover intended their vehicle to be driven....no excuses.

If I had a L663 Defender and knew that at least 3 other new entrants in the 4wd category could clearly walk away in tough going I would trade it in , considering the premium price paid for the Defender.

I had been waiting to see some good comparisons , now that there are some newly released competitors, the Defender doesn't look that good .

If this was the 4wd olympics , Defender wouldn't get a bronze.

Very glad to see JLR not producing cars for people like you.....m

**ramblingboy42** · 10th August 2021, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

It’s pretty simple isn’t it? You don’t like the new Defender - fair enough, but why bang on about it. Just scroll on by and ignore it.

this is why we have forums.....you dont like what I wrote......and you are "banging on about it"

**grey_ghost** · 10th August 2021, 08:04 PM

🤣🤣🤣

**ramblingboy42** · 10th August 2021, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Geedublya

I thought it was a fair question.

It is a fair question.

To get a fair answer you only have to do what I did.

Look at the newly emerging comparisons , now that a few manufacturers are getting their new models on the market.

Btw, I didnt intend to do this but 2 friends of mine have recently purchased the still alive LC200s and spent a few thousand dollars on both of them and turned into Defender eaters offroad for about 90% of Defender cost. I dont think they will have on road manners though. My other friends...3 brothers...each have Y62 Patrols. They are fully prepared to challenge the Defender on any road you choose.

I dont hate Defenders , they came out in a brilliant fanfair , while any competition was in the doldrums , but the competition is catching up and in several cases already beating the Defender straight out of the showroom , which was the question wasn't it?

I don't need to tell you which models are beating it. Just look up you tube Defender comparison tests. Read and weep if you are that attached to the brand.

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