D240 v P400

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Originally Posted by Cambo@oldjaguar

The low power version is a single turbo, the high power version is a twin turbo.... same 2.0L long motor, different intake manifold, and exhaust manifold to accommodate the twins.

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Interesting given all the car magazines state both are a twin turbo but does seem LR are constantly changing the specs.

If the D200 is a single turbo, then definitely the pick of the bunch given the D240 only gains 30kW with no increase in torque which you would normally expect from a twin turbo over a single turbo.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

does seem LR are constantly changing the specs.

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Same with the D240 in the D5,early Aus models had a heap more torque,and if my memory serves me correctly,power.

For some unknown reason it was detuned.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Same with the D240 in the D5,early Aus models had a heap more torque,and if my memory serves me correctly,power.

For some unknown reason it was detuned.

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I believe the detune was to meet changing emission requirements.

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Originally Posted by andrewm42

As mentioned above, the problem I have with the P400 is the 18" wheels. Its a pity they were unable to find a brake system with the required specifications that would still fit the "smaller" wheels. I wonder if the D250, D300s will have the same issue...

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For prospective owners hopefully they more be more aligned with the P300

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

I believe the detune was to meet changing emission requirements.

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Quite common for imported engines to have to be detuned because they are not designed to run on our poor quality fuels, which clogs filters.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Quite common for imported engines to have to be detuned because they are not designed to run on our poor quality fuels, which clogs filters.

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I think there is a bit more to it than that.
It was detuned quite a few months after arriving.

If it was the fuel, one would think it would have been detuned originally,on arrival in the country.

But then again, Land Rover do work in weird ways,as we all know....[bigsad][biggrin]

20k..ha we spend over 20k on rip off food prices every year and that's without beef which we source our own. We used to spend over 10k on eating out .......4 kids etc..etc

One 8 week 4wd trip to Vic 2 years ago cost over 10k in food.. . Fuel..repairs. acommodation..the Spirit...oh and grog..just a bit of grog.

Think I'd go for the 400 and adjust my diet and travel a bit for a year☺

Once the kids have moved on there is definitely a huge difference.

And there is the benefit of only two of you to disagree on things,not six[bighmmm][biggrin]

All fun and games[thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by Gregz

I understand (but can't recall where I read it) that the new diesel ingenium engines as built into the defender are a close-coupled design, which means there should be very little dpf issues.
My diesel is the Ford engine, which is the medium coupled design, but pre ad-blue. It has done 46k km now and never had an issue. I always disable the stop/start when I start the car so as to ensure the car gets time to regen if required - not sure it actually helps though. I mainly do shorter trips with occasional (maybe once a month) longer trips. I have noticed a burning smell coming from the car on occasions, which I put down to the DPF burn doing its thing - maybe occurs once every few weeks.
The only thing that I don't like about the diesel is the turbo lag, which is most prominent when coasting to a stop and then trying to accelerate away, e.g. at roundabouts. The mild hybrid engines, I understand, eliminate any lag. If I was buying now I would buy the P400 for that reason alone. However newer diesel engines are on the way with the mild hybrid, and I think that would be my pick.

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Fit an I-drive throttle controller, adjust it to your liking and your turbo lag will disappear.
Guaranteed!

I was contacted today by the dealer and informed that the D240 was no longer available for the Defender and would be now offered with the 2lt 300hp petrol (same as in the Velar, etc), and at some stage the 3lt straight 6 diesel (which will be mild hybrid). Therefore, my February 2021 build will no longer be a D240. Not sure whether this effects all current orders or whether I’m too far down the list and they will have run out of the D240 by then?? Either way, the dealer was not able to provide any price information yet on the new options.

Edit: I think the P400 is still an option too.