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						Agree re the complexity view...and it costing jobs in fabrication..already is due to eg collision avoidance systems...360deg cameras....multiple air bags etc. My boys are collecting older Patrols to avoid high tech. At least that's their excuse🤣
2 to 3 times the cost...mmm..new lux etc are approaching 70 plus and still with basic stuff eg drum brakes..leafies ..noisy engines etc. At least interiors have improved and handling is much better nowadays.
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						The problem with extended warranties on relatively low volume sales is JLR would have to build this into the price.
It would certainly be an incentive to make the vehicles more reliable to start with, but I bet they would increase the amount of servicing required given they now carry the risk.
Which is exactly what the big players have done for years,that’s why they lead the sales race.
The big issue for some is the newer ‘Lemon Laws’.
Unfortunately for some owners it’s too late.
There have been about 18 cases so far,with LR,Ford,Mercedes,VW,and a few others in the figures.
Seems the big players,with the high sales are not represented.
Percentage wise,it’s the European manufacturers that seem to have the issues.
I think they are terrible off road - mine is hopeless and others I’ve used equally so. I got mine stuck on some wet grass once - yes, it only has all terrains but it takes friggin ages to engage 4WD and the diff lock. I wouldn’t consider it a serious off roader at all myself. My 35 year old Rangie and 45 year old 101 run rings around it.
If you need to contact me please email homestarrunnerau@gmail.com - thanks - Gav.
Here is a good buy - less than 100miles on it
https://www.copart.com/lot/47721430/...-atlanta-north
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
1977 FC 101
1976 Jaguar XJ12C
1973 Haflinger AP700
1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
1957 Series 1 88"
1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon
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						Yes but the cost will be higher and not what the customer typically wants or is used too. Sil's business have suffeted agro already cause "geez..the salesman didn't tell me that".
But...there's always some smart person out there to work a solution eg to turn off the offending systems...but at a cost🙄
Comparing my top spec Triton (highway tyres) with my modified and lifted D2 with CDL and 31inch Duratracs the factory Triton with an aggressive multi mode traction control and rear diff lock is not embarrassed. And the Triton can comfortably take a fair bit more weight doing it. I'm very impressed with it. Sure the clearance isn't as good but nothing hangs down in the Triton. The SuperSelect II makes it the same as driving a modern LR (other utes havent got that) and it goes into 4 low, CDL, and rear diff lock very quickly if you know how to drive it.
Cheers
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						Super select has always been a good reliable system. Hopefully they will stick with it and not cheapen the drive train. Think you have the pick of the utes there....with early engines issues now sorted and styling finally looking quite good.
I had an early model Triton as a work car..it nearly crippled me with crap seats...brakes and suspension. I swapped it out after 3 months.
Clearly Mitsu has worked very hard to improve them both on road and off road. ..with a sort of LR traction system😎
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