This must be embarrassing for Land Rover

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Originally Posted by scarry

We will never know the truth about the two TFL issues, and exactly what happened.
The dealers will say anything.

It would only take an electrical plug to get damaged by a tech or one to fall apart, and that could be called as a damaged wiring loom, probably cut when trying to fix it...........

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Or even worse, they cut some wiring while it was still live and have blown up some electronic module/s.

Here's another video of a customer's experience with the new Defender:

***Link deleted due to language***

Edit - Anyone can find this by searching for John Cadogan or Auto Expert on Youtube - it's his latest video.

Just a friendly reminder that links to videos with bad language cannot be posted on AULRO as this breaches the Adsense rules the same as typing the same words does - but at least we have the swear filter to pick those up. [smilebigeye]

so, was it any good Gav?

It's only Diehard Land Rover masochists or totally smitten dreamers who buy new Land Rovers now anyway. Look in the current posts. One 2015 which has the gearshift break and a 2020 Disco Sport with the same problem. Now that is what I call slow learners at LR.

look at the sales figures.

In any case the example by Cadogan is a bit weak with the bloke complaining about no native wifi.

No hairy chested bearded LR freak would even know what wifi was!

I wonder if these things will actually affect LR sales such as they are .Isn't it enough that they have been last for several years on J D power or Choice UK saying Don't buy Disco Sports in particular?

Regards PhilipA

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

so, was it any good Gav?

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The video? Go have a look, easy to find. Personally I was more gob smacked at the story of the wiring loom that was accidentally cut at the dealers fitting a winch - which rendered the vehicle unrepairable - loom couldn’t be repaired nor replaced - now that’s a worry IMO - you could end up with a write off if the loom was damaged and it’s obviously at the front of the vehicle so no idea what’s going on there.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

It's only Diehard Land Rover masochists or totally smitten dreamers who buy new Land Rovers now anyway. Look in the current posts. One 2015 which has the gearshift break and a 2020 Disco Sport with the same problem. Now that is what I call slow learners at LR.

look at the sales figures.

In any case the example by Cadogan is a bit weak with the bloke complaining about no native wifi.

No hairy chested bearded LR freak would even know what wifi was!

I wonder if these things will actually affect LR sales such as they are .Isn't it enough that they have been last for several years on J D power or Choice UK saying Don't buy Disco Sports in particular?

Regards PhilipA

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And Cadogan has stated in a recent vid that he's loved pretty much every Land Rover he's ever driven, but buying one is a different story.
And he owned a Tdi 110 for a number of years back in the 90's and loved it, in the masochistic way Deefer drivers do [emoji16]

Tech has its place but the acceleration in tech since the D3 SE is astronomical so there’s bound to be a few issues. It’s like comparing an Apollo rocket with the Space Shuttle when looking at the new Deefer. It looks like driving an IPhone. As we know with rockets and planes a few go bang even given the zillions spent.

There’s a lot to love about the single turbo with stick select 6 speed auto. Looks like a comparative Stone Age tool by comparison to those models that followed.

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Originally Posted by Homestar

The video? Go have a look, easy to find. Personally I was more gob smacked at the story of the wiring loom that was accidentally cut at the dealers fitting a winch - which rendered the vehicle unrepairable - loom couldn’t be repaired nor replaced - now that’s a worry IMO - you could end up with a write off if the loom was damaged and it’s obviously at the front of the vehicle so no idea what’s going on there.

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Loom couldn’t be replaced because there is a shortage of spares at the moment. That is all.

The current European issues are reducing stock availability. Toyota here is having same problem with some spare parts.

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Originally Posted by PhilipA

It's only Diehard Land Rover masochists or totally smitten dreamers who buy new Land Rovers now anyway. Look in the current posts. One 2015 which has the gearshift break and a 2020 Disco Sport with the same problem. Now that is what I call slow learners at LR.

look at the sales figures.

In any case the example by Cadogan is a bit weak with the bloke complaining about no native wifi.

No hairy chested bearded LR freak would even know what wifi was!

I wonder if these things will actually affect LR sales such as they are .Isn't it enough that they have been last for several years on J D power or Choice UK saying Don't buy Disco Sports in particular?

Regards PhilipA

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Hardly a problem. Plenty of old transmissions and gear shifts have broken leaving drivers stuck in old Landies.

The 2015 issue could have been fixed with 1 part of so desired and ordered.