Thread: Delivery Dates//not happy

I ordered 17 Feb and got notification, finally, on the 23rd of August that expected delivery will be 25 of Feb 2023. Prior to that I had no updates at all. Build date 2 December.

I ordered a d300 SE.

When ordering I was told to expect to wait 12 months.

Well here's a little story for everyone,

(First post by the way)
I ordered my D300 SE 22/12/2021. to replace my 2013 D4 HSE. it only had 155k on the clock then. I was told a month ago the new car might be here this Dec but not to count on it. I haven't been told its in Manuf yet so I'm not positive at all.

In January this year however the D4 blew the motor - crank. While towing the caravan. That's the 5th time it's been on a tilt tray now - 4 times with the van, and a long long way from home mostly. Always an adventure driving these things as well being bloody frustrating and costly.
So it's a love hate relationship with LR. I love it and the smarter one beside me hates it. I think I'm the delusional one.

So we spent $22k on a fully recond motor and 4 months later we're back on the road - crappy timing hey breaking a motor a month after ordering a replacement car!

Well on Friday whilst towing the van again, this time only a few hundred Klms from home guess what. Yep, virtually without warning the car 's motor stopped and we glided just far enough to be able to roll off the M1. I positive the motors gone again. So another 4 hours the misses and I spent in a tow truck.

The car's now headed back to the motor rebuilder under warranty - at this point I feel sorry for him. I hope that doesn't turn to further frustrations with the outcome.

Most of my mates drive the Nissan Y62's and love them (not the fuel efficiency though, they just accept that). I haven't been able to bring myself to tell em about the latest tragedy. I can hear them now - Your buying another one! You're a complete dill to put it mildly for this publication.

So someone please enlighten me - Can I expect the same experience with the new Defr. I definitely wouldn't risk keeping it past the warranty period for sure.

The heart says, stay the corse,. Its a brand new car, motor everything but a there's the voice in my head says, cancel it - get a Nissan and with the nearly 30K saving don't worry about the fuel.

Malibu Rod.

We have had our car just over a year 20,000 Kms plus ,one Simson crossing and numerous trips to the Flinders ranges. Slight problem with tpms and very slight coolant use. Have not towed with it but otherwise happy .

Only you can answer this! Depends on your attitude to risk, what value you place on reliability and what you would expect if things go wrong.

I can’t speak for the new defender but in reading over the last 12 years JLRAs attitude to rectifying faults and looking after long term customers there’s absolutely no way in the world I’d buy a new Landrover.

Yes the D4 and quite like the new Defender are amazingly comfortable and capable, when major things go wrong like the 3 litre D4 engine failures JLR just don’t want to know, and have to be kicked and dragged to do anything.

My job involves selling $150K industrial equipment ( sold largely through reputation and word of mouth) and if I neglected customers the way Landrover have done consistently I would have been out of business years ago! The d2 will be my last LR unfortunately. Rant over and good luck with your decision.

Originally Posted by MalibuRod

Well here's a little story for everyone,

(First post by the way)
I ordered my D300 SE 22/12/2021. to replace my 2013 D4 HSE. it only had 155k on the clock then. I was told a month ago the new car might be here this Dec but not to count on it. I haven't been told its in Manuf yet so I'm not positive at all.

In January this year however the D4 blew the motor - crank. While towing the caravan. That's the 5th time it's been on a tilt tray now - 4 times with the van, and a long long way from home mostly. Always an adventure driving these things as well being bloody frustrating and costly.
So it's a love hate relationship with LR. I love it and the smarter one beside me hates it. I think I'm the delusional one.

So we spent $22k on a fully recond motor and 4 months later we're back on the road - crappy timing hey breaking a motor a month after ordering a replacement car!

Well on Friday whilst towing the van again, this time only a few hundred Klms from home guess what. Yep, virtually without warning the car 's motor stopped…….

So someone please enlighten me - Can I expect the same experience with the new Defr. I definitely wouldn't risk keeping it past the warranty period for sure.

The heart says, stay the corse,. Its a brand new car, motor everything but a there's the voice in my head says, cancel it - get a Nissan and with the nearly 30K saving don't worry about the fuel.

Malibu Rod.

Originally Posted by MalibuRod

Well here's a little story for everyone,

(First post by the way)
I ordered my D300 SE 22/12/2021. to replace my 2013 D4 HSE. it only had 155k on the clock then. I was told a month ago the new car might be here this Dec but not to count on it. I haven't been told its in Manuf yet so I'm not positive at all.

In January this year however the D4 blew the motor - crank. While towing the caravan. That's the 5th time it's been on a tilt tray now - 4 times with the van, and a long long way from home mostly. Always an adventure driving these things as well being bloody frustrating and costly.
So it's a love hate relationship with LR. I love it and the smarter one beside me hates it. I think I'm the delusional one.

So we spent $22k on a fully recond motor and 4 months later we're back on the road - crappy timing hey breaking a motor a month after ordering a replacement car!

Well on Friday whilst towing the van again, this time only a few hundred Klms from home guess what. Yep, virtually without warning the car 's motor stopped and we glided just far enough to be able to roll off the M1. I positive the motors gone again. So another 4 hours the misses and I spent in a tow truck.

The car's now headed back to the motor rebuilder under warranty - at this point I feel sorry for him. I hope that doesn't turn to further frustrations with the outcome.

Most of my mates drive the Nissan Y62's and love them (not the fuel efficiency though, they just accept that). I haven't been able to bring myself to tell em about the latest tragedy. I can hear them now - Your buying another one! You're a complete dill to put it mildly for this publication.

So someone please enlighten me - Can I expect the same experience with the new Defr. I definitely wouldn't risk keeping it past the warranty period for sure.

The heart says, stay the corse,. Its a brand new car, motor everything but a there's the voice in my head says, cancel it - get a Nissan and with the nearly 30K saving don't worry about the fuel.

Malibu Rod.

Mate, stay the course. There is nothing else that's comparable in comfort, capability and quality. I owned my D4 for 8 years. Whilst we did not have the dreaded crank failure (regular 10,000km oil service, engine flush and using quality full synthetic oils seems to prevent this we did make the decision to upgrade at 230000km. I personally don't trust the dealers, I'd rather find a reliable independent or do it myself.

The current generation ingenium engines are a far cry from the PSA designed, Ford "improved" versions that went into the Disco's, but like any mechanical machine, there are tolerances. Yes there are failures, but the actual failure rate looking at the global population of those engines is something like 0.01%. Biggest issue on those diesels is the LR service interval of 24000km, especially considering they have EGRs. For every hard luck story there is the one about the oem making good under goodwill clause. Regular, preventative maintenance should see trouble free motoring. Yes JLR could possibly lift their game in customer relations, but the Japanese manufactures are no better, and even less likely to come to the party on a high miler.

I've driven the Toyota, the Nissan and the Mitsubishi, they are all bland, unexciting and outdated vehicles with truck like handling and even blander styling. Not for me. The Ineos grenadier with solid live axles is no better.

Our 11yo D4 has no creaks, rattles, squeaks or any such issues, paint is fantastic and interior leather like new. I'd like to see any other make achieve that. My wife's Jeep is just 4yo and already starting to notice paint fade, interior issues and so on.

We've ordered a P400SE due in well over a year, I have no reservations in our decision, they are a well built, sophisticated and extremely capable vehicle, well ahead of the Toyota and Noosans.

Sold the D4 last week as the second-hand market is pretty good, I do miss it already...

Originally Posted by simonmelb

Only you can answer this! Depends on your attitude to risk, what value you place on reliability and what you would expect if things go wrong.

I can’t speak for the new defender but in reading over the last 12 years JLRAs attitude to rectifying faults and looking after long term customers there’s absolutely no way in the world I’d buy a new Landrover.

Yes the D4 and quite like the new Defender are amazingly comfortable and capable, when major things go wrong like the 3 litre D4 engine failures JLR just don’t want to know, and have to be kicked and dragged to do anything.

My job involves selling $150K industrial equipment ( sold largely through reputation and word of mouth) and if I neglected customers the way Landrover have done consistently I would have been out of business years ago! The d2 will be my last LR unfortunately. Rant over and good luck with your decision.

Oh, so glad JLR doesn't care or produce for customers like you. Byeeee

Originally Posted by 100inch

Oh, so glad JLR doesn't care or produce for customers like you. Byeeee

Really - people are allowed to express their opinion with out some one being rude.

Originally Posted by chuck

Really - people are allowed to express their opinion with out some one being rude.

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