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  1. 1st June 2022, 02:49 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by veebs View Post
    I desperately want to love this car.

    Towing looks like it's dropped down to 3t (from 3.5t in the 110)

    And what kind of hot mess is this?

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    That's why I am waiting to see one in the flesh as I am hoping the seats fold all the way down like the Disco 3's and 4's.
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    You have to have the sunroof at the moment you cant delete as an option. So that's a deal breaker for me.
    A 5 seater version with bit more space in the back would be nice. But I will stick with the 110 I have on order
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    Quote Originally Posted by mowog View Post
    A 5 seater version with bit more space in the back would be nice.
    That would be a huge seller,and a common sense model to have.Great touring vehicle.

    They seem to be pushing the 8 seater,which would be more suitable for taking the kids and their friends to school,soccer,large families,etc.
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    where the hell is blackrangie?

    he knew all the answers before LRA.
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    Looking on the UK JLR site, a five seater is an option. Then you can have a flat cargo area if the middle seat bases are lifted before dropping the backs down, like in the 110.

    Goodness knows why the rear seats haven't been designed to lie flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JessicaTam View Post
    Goodness knows why the rear seats haven't been designed to lie flat.
    Exactly! The D4 has often been held up as a fantastic design - near-full size 3rd row seats that fold down completely flat. In the 20 years since that design came out, we seem to have only gone backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veebs View Post
    Exactly! The D4 has often been held up as a fantastic design - near-full size 3rd row seats that fold down completely flat. In the 20 years since that design came out, we seem to have only gone backwards.
    The D4 had a heap of great features that seemed to disappear in later models.

    One would have to wonder what some manufacturers are thinking…..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    One would have to wonder what some manufacturers are thinking…..
    Looks like some are thinking '**** me, thats a great idea. Lets do that'

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    Don't worry I'm sure Ineos will sort out a good "130" or duel cab for the Grenadier
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    Quote Originally Posted by veebs View Post
    Exactly! The D4 has often been held up as a fantastic design - near-full size 3rd row seats that fold down completely flat. In the 20 years since that design came out, we seem to have only gone backwards.
    The D4 had a heap of great features that seemed to disappear in later models.

    One would have to wonder what some manufacturers are thinking…..

    I've always marvelled at how the D3/4 seats fold flat, must've been done on a great CAD/CAM programme, or full size mock up to make sure all the parts moved without hitting others.

    Disappointing that the D5 seats don't fold flat, and it's turning circle is larger than the D3/4's, and now this sort of thinking seems to have carried on to the New Defender.
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