ChatterBox
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2022 LAND ROVER DEFENDER 110 3.0L L6 Turbocharged Engine Parts | RockAuto
And Rimmers
Defender 2019 on Oil Filter | Rimmer Bros
Filters are cheap, I'd be changing them with the oil every 10-15k km and, get the LR factory service every second one
Master
SupporterI think you have missed my point, changing the oil, provided you use the correct oil is fine, who would know?
The filter could be a different story, I have no idea where it is on the engine or what it looks like.
I'm just patiently waiting for a March delivery so I can ivestigate these things
Swaggie
I dont get it.... you guys want to rearrange service scheduling on just about the newest generation of engines on the planet.....yourselves
you did not need to , nor were you recommended to change the oil in a td5 every 10,000
I dont think Land Rover would suggest a service interval that could in the remotest way cause lubrication problems.
Master
Interesting..Originally Posted by ramblingboy42
delve into the world of D3/D4 TDV6 and LR have a 24000km oil change interval, and the crank failures are well documented ...
Yet from what i read Ford territory with the same TDV6 engine is 15000ks or 12 month which ever comes first ... im yet to read of a crank failure in a Ford Territory... Not saying there hasnt but im on a ford forum and very often read the Territory section.
Yes they cover themselves by saying closer intervals in Arduous conditions... but unlikely that gets relayed to every person who bought 1.. same as the sealed for life ZF gearbox oil..
Each for their own , and i cant ever see me buying a new defender to worry about the issue.. but those intervals seem crazy to me no matter how new the engines are..
Just my 2c
Cheers Bulletman
Swaggie
The new model Ranger that has the updated 3.0L V6 diesel engine which was in the D4,is also 12 months/15,000Km.
Maybe LR think they know something no one else does
ChatterBox
SubscriberWhaahaahaaahaaahaaaa
Have a read of the D3, D4 pages as said. LR service intervals of 24000km on a dirty, exhaust rebreathing diesels and the propensity for failed cranks, timing chains and Inlets, turbo's etc and on it goes.
IMHO LR advise these ridiculously schedules to comply with with euro emissions regulations, nothing else.
Don't forget to mention 'sealed for life' transmissions....
Don't get me wrong, I love the brand and the vehicles are amazing, but I chose petrol over diesel this time, and I still think 34000km on a petrol engine is just too long.
Glad I've got the extended warranty (again)
Master
After 2 years and 37,000K’s I have totally ignored LR’s planned service schedule on our P400, gone with a tad more diligent service regime, 12k kms/6 months Oil plus Oil and air filters and an annual full service at
24k km’s/12 months which ever comes first .. to many horror stories on Disco sports/D5/RR ewoks due to the
nasty DPF and oil dilution problems LR had/have.. do I have a lot of faith in their recommendations
OldBushie
FFS people….
Anyone who READs the owners manual, under servicing, will know that those intervals are only the maximum - standard schedule.
They would also see the very well spoken about arduous
Servicing schedule.
There is no secret that European manufacturers are now using long service intervals as a compliance to overall emissions - they are balancing it with significantly larger oil volumes compared to previous engines though, and the tech is improving.
However, bloody hell….it’s a significant investment at over $80k for the poverty model - so WHY is anyone being so tight with servicing these vehicles properly/effectively?
Service as you wish… results will be proportionate to the input.
YarnMaster
Although I've ordered a Prado to replace the 2016 D4 I'm still dithering about possibly, just possibly, getting a D300 instead. But no way would I ever have oil in an engine for more than around 10K. I really am a bit of a fanatic about changing it in everything and have always been that way since first car ownership.
Bugger EU garbage about the ecology or anyone elses theories on savings etc., I like clean oil.
I'm not overstruck on the looks of the Defenders but I will go for a run very soon in one and make my mind up......
AlanH.
Master
SubscriberThere is another reason for the ridiculously long service intervals..... Marketing Strategy.
Convince (by advertising) a prospective customer that their running (servicing) costs are significantly lower if they buy your vehicle.
Started about 12 yrs ago in the earthmoving industry.
The engine oil sump capacities were increased by around 2-4 litres; much pressure was placed on oil companies to develop Long Life oils, and hey presto, sell your machine as having lower servicing costs than those of your opposition.
And in regard to the (Japanese) brand I was involved with, the service oil change intervals went from every 250 engine hrs to 500 engine hours.
These extended service periods are attractive for the customer in regard to reduced servicing costs of oil/labour etc and also less downtime for the machine, ie, it is working earning munney rather than sitting idle having its oil changed. This is a big plus in this industry where planned and unplanned downtime is carefully measured and used against a manufacturer if the machine doesn't meet expectations.
The resultant oil analysis results were very interesting. In spite of the extra oil capacity, we could see noticeable changes (deterioration) to the oil quality by the time it had done 500 hrs. In our opinion it was past its useful life.
I religiously change my oil/filter every circa 8,000 klms and see excellent oil analysis results. Just turned 180,000 klms last week.
Before: Ser 2a LWB, Ser 3 S/W, 1979 RR 2 door, 1981 LR Stage 1 V8 (new), 1985 LR 110 V8 County (new), 2009 RRS TDV8
Now: MY13 D4 TDV6. "E" rear diff. Cambo's magic Engine & Auto Tune. 1968 Austin 1800 Mk1 auto (my 5th)
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