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    Drove off the track - Vic High Plains

    I guess a couple of years is sufficient passage of time to get over it. !!
    My brother in law was at the wheel, but I was passenger, so maybe should have given some advice, or warning, but we basically drove off the track at King Billy No 1.
    I reckon the Detroit was a contributing factor, but driver error was half the cause, anyway, the Landie lived to tell the tale.
    BTW, when I got out, the passenger floor was chest height & a big boulder was wedged against the rear pass wheel, which probably stopped a rollover.

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    Good save there Dave
    One wonders when you travel with Yota`s

    The track did not look that bad for the detroit to cause a issue but then the camera footage does not show the steepness or how rough it really was as usual
    Yeah there is always that argument over which locker is best and they all have there merits and i know what camp im in with selectable

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    How did the Detroit contribute.....front or rear??

    If it was a front locker was it the inability to steer?

    If it was just a rear locker than I’m lost.....unless it unlocked at the wrong time.

    I’m in the process of considering which locker I should go with.

    I followed a 130 up blue Rag just the other day, he had a rear Detroit and I didn’t see any unusual behavior.

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    I've been driving with a Detroit locker for years. Can't see how that incident could possibly be blamed on the diff?

    Looked like it went right, almost into the bank, then left, and simply drove off the edge. There was no really loose stuff on the track that could have caused the diff lock to overcome the steering inputs.

    The only issues I've ever had with the Detroit setup, is when travelling on a side-slope on either gravel or mud, where the back end tends to want to slide downhill. Once you've experienced it, it is quite easy to anticipate and allow for.

    I'm a bit perturbed by the fact that the driver had to be told to stop, when he'd already gone over the edge! Perhaps a concentration lapse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    How did the Detroit contribute.....front or rear??

    If it was a front locker was it the inability to steer?

    If it was just a rear locker than I’m lost.....unless it unlocked at the wrong time.

    I’m in the process of considering which locker I should go with.

    I followed a 130 up blue Rag just the other day, he had a rear Detroit and I didn’t see any unusual behavior.

    Cheers
    Detroits are definitely not for front axle fitting! That's the domain of Tru Trak (like mine), selectable locker or an ATB - type diff.

    The fact that they were driving uphill means the diff can't unlock - the only time a Detroit unlocks is on a trailing throttle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    Detroits are definitely not for front axle fitting! That's the domain of Tru Trak (like mine), selectable locker or an ATB - type diff.

    The fact that they were driving uphill means the diff can't unlock - the only time a Detroit unlocks is on a trailing throttle.
    Cool, thanks for explanation

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    Thanks for the comments,
    Its a rear Detroit, - & front ATB and maybe I'm being a bit kind to the driver by ( partly) blaming it, he has travelled thousands of 4WD KM in Africa, and I was about to say that he needn't weave around the track, bad timing from me.
    As far as the Detroit, many years ago I did once lose steering & drive off a track as the McNamara rear diff lock was not disengaged between 4wd sections, - it was nearer to 30 kph but the memory remains. I didn't want to start a debate about diff locks, but my experience has been that a rear diff locked will change steering dynamics, especially on turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJay View Post
    Thanks for the comments,
    Its a rear Detroit, - & front ATB and maybe I'm being a bit kind to the driver by ( partly) blaming it, he has travelled thousands of 4WD KM in Africa, and I was about to say that he needn't weave around the track, bad timing from me.
    As far as the Detroit, many years ago I did once lose steering & drive off a track as the McNamara rear diff lock was not disengaged between 4wd sections, - it was nearer to 30 kph but the memory remains. I didn't want to start a debate about diff locks, but my experience has been that a rear diff locked will change steering dynamics, especially on turns.
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    Well said and that it will

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    It wasn't until I saw the still shots that I understood how steep it was, looked pretty tame until then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJay View Post
    Thanks for the comments,
    Its a rear Detroit, - & front ATB and maybe I'm being a bit kind to the driver by ( partly) blaming it, he has travelled thousands of 4WD KM in Africa, and I was about to say that he needn't weave around the track, bad timing from me.
    As far as the Detroit, many years ago I did once lose steering & drive off a track as the McNamara rear diff lock was not disengaged between 4wd sections, - it was nearer to 30 kph but the memory remains. I didn't want to start a debate about diff locks, but my experience has been that a rear diff locked will change steering dynamics, especially on turns.
    David
    Detroit and McNamara are two different animals - the latter won't unlock if you lift your foot like the Detroit will.
    My D1 is my daily drive, as well as being our current expedition and prospecting vehicle of choice. Driving with the Detroit and Tru-Trak is not that difficult. Throttle control is the key. Accelerate in a corner (regardless of surface) and it will understeer, back off and you get some oversteer. In fact, it's very similar to the driving style needed in the early Perenties.
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