Thread: Disco 4 vs new Defender comparison

Yes,after living for 8 1/2 years with one,i don't think there is a better off road family touring wagon than a D4.

Huge amount of room,great tailgate set up,EAS,and good towing capacity.Powerfull and relatively frugal.

As i have said before,its a real shame it wasn't updated again,or replaced with something similar.

It appears the Defender doesn't have much more room in the rear,behind the second row of seats, than a D1.Not big enough for us,thats for sure.

Yeah Paul, I've been out on some pretty tough tracks with my old defender and an HSE D4 and that thing just cruised and crawled over the hardest sections of track in absolute luxury whilst us deefer drivers suffered the hardships of driving something akin to a tractor. Don't get me wrong, I love the old girl but they're rough and given my advancing years, I'm starting to want the luxury and competence of a D4. No way the cook is going to do "The big lap" in an old defender - hell, I don't want to.

Originally Posted by Didge

Yeah Paul, I've been out on some pretty tough tracks with my old defender and an HSE D4 and that thing just cruised and crawled over the hardest sections of track in absolute luxury whilst us deefer drivers suffered the hardships of driving something akin to a tractor. Don't get me wrong, I love the old girl but they're rough and given my advancing years, I'm starting to want the luxury and competence of a D4. No way the cook is going to do "The big lap" in an old defender - hell, I don't want to.

Yes,had them side by side in the rough,i know which one does it easier,but in real soft sand,they are on par.

I did 100K's in the Deefer 110 today,and when i got out my ears were ringing.Could be the muddies though.

Oh,and all the matts were out,nothing in the back at all to absorb any noise,its stripped bare ATM.

As i said in another thread,i did six hours in it not long ago,there is no way i want to do that again.

The ride is great,long travel coils,long wheelbase,what would anyone expect,but the noise,seats,driving position,well maybe i am getting old.

Or spoilt by the D4,as is SWMBO.

I am waiting to see how much room there is in the back of the 130 when it finally appears. I currently have a D1 and D3, so upgrading to a 110 with only the rear room of a D1 is problematic for me.

Originally Posted by cripesamighty

I am waiting to see how much room there is in the back of the 130 when it finally appears. I currently have a D1 and D3, so upgrading to a 110 with only the rear room of a D1 is problematic for me.

More room than a D1 probably closer to D2 size.

In the side-by-side comparison the Defender’s external length looked roughly the same as the D4 if you included the rear mounted tyre. Will wait to see what the 130 turns out like to get a better idea of comparative internal volumes. Then we can gauge how close LR got the Defender’s rear space to the D3/D4’s, rather than the D2. Will be interesting to see what people prefer.

I can see history repeating (110 vs 130) where we currently compare the rear space of the D1 vs D2 for touring, and rear overhangs for the more extreme stuff. Since the new Defenders wheelbase is the same for the 110 and 130, it will be horses for courses. Let the fun begin!

Originally Posted by loanrangie

More room than a D1 probably closer to D2 size.

Umm,maybe not.

On the Vid he measured 870mm,but to rear door seal is slightly more,maybe 900 absolute max to seal.Actual distance probably depends on how far the door protrudes inside the seal.

D1 is around 850mm,D2 is 150mm more?

Maybe someone with both could measure.

D1,D2,also have seats in rear if 7 seater,which reduce load space as they fold to the sides.
But they are easily removed.

isn't the 110/130 designation the wheelbase in inches for the respective model?

what does 130 represent in the new one?