Thread: 112-723 Emmet

That little box on the rear looks suspiciously like a rifle stock mount., the same as used in trucks and some other vehicles. Is there a clamp, or signs of a rifle clamp having been fitted further forward of it.
(There should be another rifle clamp on the drivers side rear as well. If I remember correctly the gun crew that rode in the back were both issued with SLRs, as was the crew commdr. The driver used an Owen in the early days and later an F1 9mm. and that was carried alongside the drivers seat standing upwards from a triangular mount on the floor beside the seat base with another barrel clamp fitted up just above where the door catch would have been, had a door been fitted.)
Originally the head of the shovel as well as the axe and pick handles would have nestled in that space. Yours has been retro fitted (probably in service) with the standard 2a guard tops complete with CES mounts (more than likely because that is all that was available as spares on hand to replace the original guards/wings when and if they were damaged) and this has allowed a bit of rearranging of space in the back crew section. Space here was a rare commodity.
The litle bars that hold the ammo in place on either side are a fairly easily and often damaged piece of equipment and I have seen quite a few different designs, varying from unit to unit. Originally this was a simple tubular bar that hinged from the inner side and was held in place with a spring clip mounted towards the outer edge. These tended to turn over on the swivel side sometimes and drop down allowing feral 106 shells to escape, so there was a mod on many buggies where another inverted "u" shaped bar was added to the original single bar, such as yours, to keep the ammo in place.
The other square box mounted on the back of the transome was the 50cal "spotter rifle" ammo box.
The centre box between the seats was always open and unlidded
Regards
Glen

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Good news!
As to the other bits, if I take the materials, I may be able manufacture them in the workshop with 112-512 alongside as a template. Will have to get permission first.

Diana

That would be the best surely they can appreciate the fact your restoring some history relevant to the place??

By the way, next post is # 8,500!! Congrats!

Originally Posted by zulu Delta 534

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The centre box between the seats was always open and unlidded
Regards
Glen

8500 whoa

Thanks Glen, very informative.

If no lid on the box, did they have grip handles or anything?

On a second topic, when fitted with the M60 pedestal, was the wheel ramp removed?

Diana

G'day All, Diana if yours was retro fitted with GPMG M60 pedastal mount it would have tell tale holes in the floor. The lid covering the 'cubby box' in between the front seats in my gunbuggy was made from a 'It is an Offence to trespass on Commonwelath land etc etc' you can still read it from the underside of the box.
My gunbuggy doesn't have the ?? rifle butt box in the rear LHS, nor does it have the ramp for the 106 front wheel, but it has most other fittings, if you need anything specific just ask, if I've got it I can measure it for you, cheers Dennis
ps in your first picture of the barrel mount, is your engine running?? as your Oil pressure guage is showing about 40psi??,,.
pps the cubby box did not have grab handles, it is just a flat piece of material

A lot of the M60 mounts were done "in country" and done with whatever was to hand. The two we had in SVN simply had the post welded to the gun front wheel runner, which is in turn mounted to the vehicle by two bolts through the floor at the rear of the runner and a flat plate with four bolts to the bracket that comes off the cross member (through the floor of the "middle seat bin")
The "post" was then fastened with an exhaust clamp to the top rail of the tub transome. Note the two holes in the top rail above the tub 'cut out' bit.


The above shot is of Onslow and shows the weld mark where the M60 post was welded to the runner. It had been cut off by the time I got it and I was the first one to use him since his discharge, as, after he was auctioned off he sat in a paddock sulking, surrounded by a couple of others of his ilk plus a couple of Saracens and other assorted gear, and then I came along.
This shot also illustrates, in a manner, how the "runner" was fitted to the mount from the cross member that is shown as being cut off in your picture. Your mount looks as though it has simply had the flat plate with four corresponding holes cut off the top of the mounting post, an easy enough fix.
Regards
Glen

Hello All,
Diana re the fitting in the LH rear tub, as Glen has said, is the butt holder for an SLR, When i was at Richmond i had the job of removing these from the mogs and fitting the F88 mounts, if you look at Dads 80" you'll see i fitted one into that, fits a 303 butt very nicely.

I have the clamps for the top to, I can take a pic and post it i you would like.

regards
Justin.

Thanks guys, firstly the only SVN history I have is the comment and broken link on the REMLR gun buggy ARN site. It is only my assumption therefore that it had the M60 pedestal mount. As for archaeological evidence, the missing bits make it difficult to identify what in-country mods may have happened.

Dinty - As a volunteer to the AAMME I have weekly access to 112-512 for measurements and the assistance of ex-RAEME and ex-RAE volies to assist making bits. But thanks for your offer will let you know if something comes up.

MC and Glen - Glen's comment seems to indicate that there should be two butt holders in the tub, however there only seems to be evidence of one. There are other unidentified holes but don't know if they relate to each other.

MC I would be interested in a few of the items if available.

Diana

Onslow only has the one clamp on the drivers side rear, no butt holders at all at all, and none on the passenger side as, as mentioned earlier, thats where the gardening tools were.
I do have another clamp and a muzzle holder along the front face of the seat base for the crew Cdr though and the mount for the drivers OMC.
Regards
Glen