Thread: LPG number plate stickers. Laws?

Originally Posted by pfillery

I have standard number plate on my S3 at present. Soon to change to my personalised plates. I'm also about to fit gas. So the installer will stick the little lpg sticker to the old plates. When I change plates, is there some requirement for me to put stickers on my new plates (ie legal requirement)? I'd rather not have them on the plates if it can be avoided so can they go on the number plate frame etc. as long as they are there? As the plates can change from car to car, it would make more sense for the lpg notation to be on the car not the plate.

The new red tags should be metal plates, riveted on which can be drilled out. Ask the LPG installer to supply you with two spare plates. They will cost him less that $1 each. They are supposed to be fitted to the number plate. Sense doesn't come into it, this is a government regulation you know.

Did the rules change? My car has stickers directly onto the numberplates. I note all recent conversions have, as you say, the stickers on metal plates which are riveted on.

Bloody governments.....

Red metal plates on the number plates have been required since 1999 in Australia.

Quoting AS1425:2007 (similar)

7.4.3 Vehicle identification
In Australia, to indicate that a vehicle is equipped to use LP Gas as a fuel, it shall carry permanently attached to the front and rear registration plates, an approved, external metal plate not less than 1 mm thick affixed with a label complying at least with the following requirements:
(a) The plate and label size shall be not less than 25 mm square mounted as a diamond.
(b) The label colour shall be retroreflective red, complying with AS/NZS 1906.1, Class 2.
(c) The label shall have only the letters ‘LPG’ in white at least 10 mm in height.
Where a vehicle is fitted with more than one container, the vehicle shall carry an additional plate and label as above.
In New Zealand, to indicate that a vehicle is equipped to use LP Gas as a fuel, it shall have affixed as close as possible to the registration/number a plate and label complying at least with the following requirements:
(i) The plate and label size shall be 80 mm square, mounted on a diamond.
(ii) The label colour shall be retroreflective red, complying with AS/NZS 1906.1, Class 2.
(iii) The label shall have only the letters ‘LPG’ in white at least 20 mm in height.

Originally Posted by bee utey

Red metal plates on the number plates have been required since 1999 in Australia.

Hmmm. My P38A was first fitted with LPG in 2001 (before I bought it).

the way i read it, the diamond dont have to be attached to the center of the plate it cold be attached to 1 of the fixing holes on the corner of the plate . the sizes given are min and it would only take a dob of solider along with a bolt through the hole of the plate to the diamond to make it permanent

Originally Posted by richard4u2

the way i read it, the diamond dont have to be attached to the center of the plate it cold be attached to 1 of the fixing holes on the corner of the plate . the sizes given are min and it would only take a dob of solider along with a bolt through the hole of the plate to the diamond to make it permanent

How hard is it to drill out two pop rivets and re-rivet them to another number plate?

Hmmm. My P38A was first fitted with LPG in 2001 (before I bought it).

The inability of some gas fitters to read and comprehend the instructions is a known problem...

I too have to say I've never seen a plate riveted to a number plate. Only ever a sticker. Even on new lpg only cars and taxis which are normally less than 8 years old.

Surely as the owner of personalised plates, which unlike regular plates are my property to keep and do with what I want or fit to another vehicle, I could take it to task if an installer drilled holes in and riveted a plate to the middle of my number plate. Hence I will leave the old ones there and should they decide to use stickers, all well and good, but if they expect I'm going to drill plates they have got another thing coming. I'm happy to put a diamond plate adjacent to or under my plate, onto the front bumper or somewhere similar or mount a sticker to the plate which can be peeled or dissolved off if I want it removed. If my plates don't fit the car I'll tend to drill holes in the car rather than the plate unless they are standard number plates in which case I don't care.

Seems that pre warned is pre armed and any ideas of changing my plates prior to fitting gas are now on hold.