Thread: Ex army Mack 6x6 trucks.

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

they're not the only ones...

the cranes, bridgies (from memory) and arty truck have them at the back too.

OK then.

The tippers, like the subject of this part of the thread, have their fuel tanks at the front of the body and drive axles, potentially adding some of the fuel weight to the front axle. The others like tray backs have the fuel at the rear of the body, behind the drive.

ahh I wasnt being specific about the tipper variant hence the comment....

as a side thought......

if you stripped off the excess stuff from the font end (tool bins, spare + carrier, passenger seat, rear window, bonnet covers, every second wheel nut on the fronts) attached it behind the tray then put about 10-20 psi differential valve between the front and rear airbags (one per side) to pump the center axle down a little harder that'd get you close.

Or we could come in line with EU or US standards and allow 3 axle GVM of 25 Tonne with axle limits for singles up to 9.2 Tonne.

http://www.transportsfriend.org/road/axles.html

For what we want a Mack for we'd even consider replacing the front diff with a solid beam axle.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Or we could come in line with EU or US standards and allow 3 axle GVM of 25 Tonne with axle limits for singles up to 9.2 Tonne.

Transports Friend - Vehicle axles and weights

For what we want a Mack for we'd even consider replacing the front diff with a solid beam axle.

interesting, considering they are jaming euro 5 down our throats but not supplying the infastructure to support it properly (unless they've gotten their act together in the last 5 years and no-one told me)

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

interesting, considering they are jaming euro 5 down our throats but not supplying the infastructure to support it properly (unless they've gotten their act together in the last 5 years and no-one told me)

Off Topic, but my Iveco Daily 4x4 is Euro5 EEV , , the owners manual states if use fuel in countries above 5000ppm (sulphur) to half the service intervals ( 20k instead of 40k) , In 2001 Australia had 500ppm , 2006 -50ppm and 2009 10ppm

so I'm not really concerned about fuel quality ( tho I am fitting additional filters) but I'll still be halving the services to 20k ,

so what other Infrastructure are we talking about ??

Fuel Quality in Australia - Diesel fuel quality standard

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

It seems that they are overweight over the front axle in Victoria in spite of the NSW Brownslip. While it may be on Graysoline, it is not being re-sold by AFM but by a private vendor, it is more like the same vehicle coming through eBay or Carsales.com any number of times.

Sorry, I thought Graysonline would have sold it first time around..

Originally Posted by DeeJay

Sorry, I thought Graysonline would have sold it first time around..

Graysonline is just an auction site, somewhat similar to eBay, they don't buy or sell anything they merely run the auction. i.e. they are the auctioneer.

The original vendor was Australian Frontline Machinery, the vendor for the truck this time is a private seller.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Off Topic, but my Iveco Daily 4x4 is Euro5 EEV , , the owners manual states if use fuel in countries above 5000ppm (sulphur) to half the service intervals ( 20k instead of 40k) , In 2001 Australia had 500ppm , 2006 -50ppm and 2009 10ppm

so I'm not really concerned about fuel quality ( tho I am fitting additional filters) but I'll still be halving the services to 20k ,

so what other Infrastructure are we talking about ??

Fuel Quality in Australia - Diesel fuel quality standard

thats what its supposed to be except that

a, you can have upto 10% bio in your fuel before they have to advertise the bio content (but they are required to display the "this fuel may contain up to 10% bio" sticker somewhere on site.

b, the suspsended water content (especially further north) is usually over

c, particualate contamination

are usually not euro 5 compliant, and it gets worse, euro 6 is only just around the corner and its looking to more than halve the levels again to allow cleaner burns of the fuel and aid in the exhaust after care.

from the last run around that I did (about 5 years ago) most of the problems dont come from the refinery but from the sloppy handling of the fuel at the stations. Theres a local servo I wouldnt even fill fozzy from anymore (this occurred about 2 years ago now) because the fill points were covered with water (poor site drainage after construction works) and while talking to the tanker driver about how he kept the water out when coupling up got told "the owners basic opinion is just do the coupling works fast and get the covers on let the filters deal with it."

But its not just the euro standards that cause problems, go read the manual for ANY euro 4+ commonrail (or unit injected engine post about 2000) and you'll find in most cases the manufacturers acceptable limit for bio is 0% so unless you always fill up with the top line premium diesels (which arent available everywhere) and have all the receipts for all the fuel ever put into the vehicle if you do a high pressure pump injector or regulator the manufacturer can legally refuse the warranty work because you didnt fill it with the appropriate fuel.


Best thing is, unless you happen to have one of the first gotten rid of td5 ex mil vehicles you havent got a thing to worry about, hell strain and filter the sump oil on changes and blend it in at about 15% into the tank if you want to.