Thread: Windsor / Clevo difference

for a start, the clevo is so wide, it makes changing plugs difficult as they are almost at the shock towers in a X series falcon. the windsor by comparison looks too small for the engine bay

jc

Mate says the obvious difference is the location of the thermostat housing

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine"]Ford 335 engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] is a good example

I had a small windsor in my Bedford van,,
you can buy a 351 version

why not just bolt in a LS1??

A quick glance will tell which is which.
Windsor engines have taller skinny "Windsor" blue (if still stock colour) rocker boxes, Cleveland are wider shorter and (usually) a red\orange colour.
As previously mentioned Cleveland engines are a wider set V form and take up a lot of room in the early engine bays, oddly, both engines have the same bore and stroke dimensions per capacity.
Windsor also only came as a 2V engine mostly 2 barrel carbies, Cleveland was 2V or 4V and 2 or 4 barrel carbies.
As also mentioned the "Winie" can be obtained as a 351ci, not as powerful HP wise as the Cleveland, but pulls like a freight train.
If you are restoring an XR then the 289 Windsor was the engine the XR GT and Fairmonts had as stock, wish I still had mine lovely car.

My opinion is the clevo makes a realy good boat anchor The windsor is the pick of the bunch , The difference if you had one of each side by side as has been said is the physical size the clevo way bigger as it was designed for trucks .

Funny how ford went back to the windsor for the e series i think more for the size of the engine bay

The big difference is in how the heads look around the exhaust manifold. windsor is tight to the head:




and valves are in a straight line like LR

Cleveland heads have valves offset and exhaust ports stick out.




and ports are much bigger.

Mmm, Clevo

I had a nice 351 with a C6 behind it in my F100.

2V heads, 4V valves, relatively mild bump stick for LPG, Scorcher electronic dizzy with the curve to my specs and (Cough Cough) Holden HEI spread cap and coil.
Balanced, Speed pro rings and hyper-eutectic pistons, Genie headers all port matched and de-dagged, 2.25" dual system, only ever run on full syn 15W-50 Mobil 1 or occasionally Castrol Formula R 10W-60, yada yada yada.
Still sitting on a pallet in the shed as I keep forgetting it's there, probably seized up by now....

Pulled like a freight train towing the race car and made a glorious sound for a Clevo (I actually prefer the roar of a Holden V8 )

Jumping from it to a dead stock 300Tdi was a little bit of a culture shock

Oh well problem solved, just bought myself a 289 out of a mustang.

now no excuse not to finish the car.

Thanks for the reply's.

Cheers Ean