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    House to shed power cable size/type

    Currently the shed only has a 10A RCD and from what I can see, it's been piggybacked from the nearest powerpoint in the kitchen. The shed is also the laundry with washing machine and dryer. We get by, but really it's not enough. Therefore the plan is to run new power from the house switchboard to the shed.

    The cable run would be 30m and I'm thinking capable of up to 30A ideally. I could definitely live with 20A, but I figure if I'm going to the effort of running new cable, I might as well make it safe for 30A.

    Calculators say 6mm2, although it looks like I might be getting close to the next size up? Thoughts?

    Is stranded or solid core the way to go?
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    6mm may do, but I would use 10mm myself. The maximum current rating of the cable isn't enough to go on. Derate factors due to length of run, what sort of cable, single or 3 phase all need to be in the calculations, as does the calculation for fault loop impedance. If your calc says 6 is close then 10 would work fine.

    You won't find 6 or 10mm in a solid conductor, it will be of 7 strand construction.
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    6mm

    I doubt you'll even find solid, stranded is good, will be good for an easy 32A

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    6mm will be ample. Get it AMPle.
    It will carry 32a a lot further than that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vern View Post
    6mm will be ample. Get it AMPle.
    It will carry 32a a lot further than that
    Thanks for your qualified answer. (Also, thanks to the other sparkies replying!)

    Sounds like 6mm it is.

    Gav, I appreciate there are other factors, which is why I asked the question. Factors like 3-phase don't seem very relevant to me, and since I'll unlikely be going over about 10-20A most of the time, I'm pretty happy with 6mm. In fact I may just start with a 20A RCD in the shed anyway....

    ..which brings me to the next technical issue! My switchboard is full!

    Main switchboard in the house has 4x40A RCD's, which split the switchboard in half, each side filled with CB's. One 16A CB in the house feeds 1xBR, a few power-points in the kitchen, the dishwasher and the shed 10A RCD. The house 16A CB has never tripped. The shed one does and it's because we are definitely going over 10A trying to dry clothes and weld at the same time.

    Assuming that I'm loading the 2x40A RCD's evenly in the main switchboard, is an appropriate solution to replace the 16A CB with a 32A CB still feeding the 1xBR, a few power-points in the kitchen, the dishwasher and the shed 20A RCD via my new cable run? I.E. Effectively 2 cables/circuits being fed out of the 1 CB in the house.
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    Doesn't your electrician know ?

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    If you are planning on installing machine tools, get three phase 415 v. power installed. Used 240 v. machine tools sell at a considerable premium over three phase machines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    If you are planning on installing machine tools, get three phase 415 v. power installed. Used 240 v. machine tools sell at a considerable premium over three phase machines.
    Scope creep!

    Really the main requirement at the moment is to be able to run both the drier and washing machine at the same time! But instead of just changing the shed RCD from 10A to 16A - which would probably work - I'm looking a little past that and allowing for maybe a 15A outlet in the shed or just generally allowing for a bit more power if needed. But nothing really major.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judo View Post



    Main switchboard in the house has 4x40A RCD's, which split the switchboard in half, each side filled with CB's. One 16A CB in the house feeds 1xBR, a few power-points in the kitchen, the dishwasher and the shed 10A RCD. The house 16A CB has never tripped. The shed one does and it's because we are definitely going over 10A trying to dry clothes and weld at the same time.
    A suggestion would be to replace all circuit breakers where possible with single gang RCDs which would free up a couple of spaces by removing the older style RCDs which feed multiple breakers.

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    I have recently run underground cables to deliver up to 40A with a total cable run of about 27m.

    In consultation with the sparky we buried 10mm cable. Neutral screen was cheaper than tps and we ran a 6mm earth in the same trench.

    It's in use but only using a few amps. It will be some time before I need the full capacity. The sparky put a 32A breaker in at the house end as a spare holder that size was already wired. But we can upgrade to 40A later if it gets close.

    Cost me about $4k in the end, but including data cabling in the same trench, check meter, rcbo on each of four circuits, 7 outlets of different types etc.

    Future proofing isn't cheap.

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