Thread: Fuel can holders, petrol v diesel and other related ramblings

My issue is where on top of a 101 can support a jerry can? 😉

On the back of the vehicle I can live with. Won’t be room inside and I wouldn’t want a spill inside making it stink of petrol where I’ll be sleeping.

Originally Posted by Homestar

My issue is where on top of a 101 can support a jerry can?

On the back of the vehicle I can live with. Won’t be room inside and I wouldn’t want a spill inside making it stink of petrol where I’ll be sleeping.

Need rod racks and a tray for load spreading, I think.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Living

I wonder why they say no jerries on the back of caravans but make no mention of the rear of vehicles.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Won’t be room inside and I wouldn’t want a spill inside making it stink of petrol where I’ll be sleeping.

I cuddle up to my LPG tank when sleeping in the back of the 101 - just as cold as some of the women I .......................

Originally Posted by 101RRS

I cuddle up to my LPG tank when sleeping in the back of the 101 - just as cold as some of the women I .......................

And i bet there are no complaints from it either.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Need rod racks and a tray for load spreading, I think.

What would the racks attach to? The hoops wouldn’t be strong enough and I don’t want to punch holes in a brand new, very expensive canvas that might cause leaks. 😊

Originally Posted by Homestar

So does that mean you need a commercially made, ADR compliant jerry can holder? 😉

Maybe.

What I was getting at is that a jerry can holder itself can't be "ADR compliant" per se because there's no ADR for jerry can holders (this came up in a court case re motorbike helmet cameras about two years ago). ADRs are for cars, not accessories. As this useful article points out, the "ADR compliance" is that the product in question doesn't negatively affect the vehicle's ADR compliance:

"As he commented further, the term ‘ADR-compliant’ can be misinterpreted as applying to a particular accessory, rather than the fact it means the accessory is ‘compliant’ because it does not affect or alter the performance and safety of the vehicle as it was originally designed to meet a specific ADR."

Engineering ADR-compliant gear

I can't see:

(a) how a rear or roof mounted jerry can holder would affect the ADR compliance of any vehicle: if cars had rear crumple zones then anything stuck on the back would need to not affect that, in the same way that bullbars can't affect ADR compliance re frontal collisions, but I can't think of any rear ADR compliance issues, other perhaps than not affecting or obscuring rear lights.

This article refers to using an "ADR compliant holder" but as I said, it's not clear in what sense a jerry can holder would render a car non-compliant:

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I would suggest though that if you were going to use jerry cans to carry fuel you would want to use jerry cans that comply with the Australian standard - and there is one for jerry cans. If you're using aux tanks that have been installed professionally, then you'd presumably have a warranty from the manufacturer/installer that the car was still road-worthy and ADR compliant.

(b) on a quick scan of the Australian Dangerous Goods Code, diesel doesn't get much of a mention, although petrol appears to be treated as more dangerous:

https://www.ntc.gov.au/Media/Reports...CFD8DDEFA).pdf

The Victorian Dangerous Goods (Transport by Road orRail) Regulations 2008 appear to exempt fuel loads of less than 500 litres or if the goods are not being transported commercially, and other State's regs are probably similar (since they run off the Code and the UN rules).

Basically the whole thing's a bit opaque and would warrant some proper research - I suspect that much of what's being said on-line about jerry cans is either urban myth or hearsay.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Yeah, already have the one on the LHS next to the winch in the 101 but want a couple more as I’m doing a big trip next year and would like to get close to what others can between servos, which means carrying twice the fuel - weight won’t be an issue for me like it will so,e others either. Also, while I am specifically talking about rear mounted, I have yet to see any actual reference to it being illegal to mount them up front either - apart from about 100 forum posts with no link to any legislation to show this is actually the case.

Have you considered using a fuel bladder instead of jerry cans, easier to use and can be folded away when empty to save space.
I am thinking of getting one for my boat for extended trips as the 2x 60l drums and 3 jerry cans take up a lot of space.