Steel Structural Insulated Panels (SIPs) - anyone worked with them?

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Originally Posted by rick130

And for a dwelling all services will be exposed, all electrical will have to be run in conduit, etc etc.
That may increase the cost of finishing compared to a conventional build.

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Yep, good points. I want to avoid looking industrial if possible. If I cannot, then I will go whole-hog and have pipe bridges. However, in the design layout I am working on, all plumbing will be very short runs as the bathroom and kitchen are in adjacent rooms separated by a wooden partition wall and the services will come under the floor and up the inside of the wood frame or in the case of kitchen units, behind the kitchen unit. An gas califont water heater will be placed on the exterior wall adjacent to the kitchen and bathroom.

Wiring will be interesting. Currently working on what I need for that.

Thinking about placing floor to ceiling shelving units for storage in strategic places so if I combine this concept with conduit placement...

I may have a means of making it look less industrial... [biggrin] There are apparently wire chases incorporated into the SIPs wall panels so if I can predetermine placement, I can use these but that means I need to be more organised...

The Bondor panels have a wiring chase along every join
So 1m centres or there abouts

From talking to a sparky mate it is very little problem to drill a hole anywhere in the panel then drill/hack a channel to the chase and run wiring internal
To the panel. Obviously a little more fiddle than conventional wiring prior to finish but certainly not requiring external fixation.

My thoughts are that I wouldn’t “love” the feel of internal metal walls... ceiling in a cabin no problems

But walls would seem cold (even though it won’t be)

Steve

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

The Bondor panels have a wiring chase along every join
So 1m centres or there abouts

From talking to a sparky mate it is very little problem to drill a hole anywhere in the panel then drill/hack a channel to the chase and run wiring internal
To the panel. Obviously a little more fiddle than conventional wiring prior to finish but certainly not requiring external fixation.

My thoughts are that I wouldn’t “love” the feel of internal metal walls... ceiling in a cabin no problems

But walls would seem cold (even though it won’t be)

Steve

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Cool, so quite different to coolroom panel

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Originally Posted by rick130

Cool, so quite different to coolroom panel

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I assume that cool room panels wouldn't be considered structural since they are usually contained within a separate structure .

Generally,Bondor supply EPS,which is the standard type polystyrene panels that do have a fire retardant.
They also supply XFLAM,which is their range of fire resistant paneling,for cold/Freezer rooms, etc.
Both these are sandwiched between .4mm colour bond sheetmetal.

Its the fumes that come off the polystyrene,when burnt, which is the issue.

And we use Polyurethane sandwich panels at times as well, another Bondor product, but usually for floors of Cold/Freezers,due to its higher insulation properties.

The rooms I referred to in my earlier post were done in XFLAM,i had to look up the job as I couldn't remember what it was called[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by rick130

Cool, so quite different to coolroom panel

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yes, seems a completely different product.

I wonder what the Bondor insulation material is,Polystyrene(EPS)or something like the XFLAM product?

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Originally Posted by roverrescue

My thoughts are that I wouldn’t “love” the feel of internal metal walls... ceiling in a cabin no problems
But walls would seem cold (even though it won’t be)

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Yep, I am with you there. I will have view windows on one side and floor to ceiling shelving out of varnished plywood about the place. I think I can minimise steel walls. In the kitchen area it'd be an OK feature I guess. The bedroom area is causing me thought. I could continue shelving in there but the thought of looking at all the bits and bobs that the wife would fill them with leaves me as cold as looking at steel walls. My fishing gear would only take up a few cubbyholes. Need more fishing gear. Mostly dark when I am in there so maybe won't be as bad as I think it could be. [bigwhistle]

Pictures, decorative mirrors, feature mural or ceiling to Florida drapes. How often do you stare at walls? There's plenty of way to trick the eye or deflect focus.

Fun with magnets! I have a pile of small neodymium magnets. [bigwhistle]

We have a heap of words on magnetised materials for a fridge. The wall is now the limit!

I can start collecting magnetic signs...[bighmmm]

Scarry


“I wonder what the Bondor insulation material is,Polystyrene(EPS)”

According to their website they use
EPS-FR (fire retardant) so who knows what it is chemically

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