Thread: 200TDi Build

Originally Posted by NiteMare

by the way, don't take anything i say as the only way and 100% accurate, i've only had Land Rovers about 20 months so i'm only learning myself, i have experimented quite a bit and also done quite a bit of research when doing my conversion, i'm a reasonably competent spannerman but i'm not formally trained (built almost everything from mopeds to HGV's in the past tho), most of my skills are self taught as and when i've had the desire or need to learn them

you replied whilst i was editting, so i figure i best quote my edit to keep things nice and clear

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by NiteMare

you replied whilst i was editting, so i figure i best quote my edit to keep things nice and clear

Cheers
Pete

Hey Pete
we are been cut from the same block if thats your back ground, taken the same path so I hear you, its all good, goodnight from Oz Gazz

Well back into this project again have finally started the mounting of the intercooler and radiator setup. Had panels folded up so I could keep the original radiator and fit the intercooler in front. So far this has gone pretty well together as invisaged an few minor things to tweek prior to welding the panel up Heres an image of it [IMG][/IMG]. and one from the top
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Am concerned about fixing the intercooler so that it does not fatigue, worried if I fix it off rigidly it will crack in the future any advise apreciated. So far I have not made comitment in this area yet there are 2 holes top and bottom, there was a pair of rubbermounts on the bottom which could be reused but would like to see and hear others opinions .
Kindest regards
Garry

Following this thread with great interest as it's something I'd like to do one day in the not too distant future
By installing the 200tdi motor, does it make the "Series Landrover" more of a modern tourer ?? This is what my intentions will be, to create a reliable and economical vehicle that can be used.

I see in the "markets" there is a Nissan ED33 engine + box for sale, would this be an equivalent option instead of a 200tdi ?? Or would this motor make the Series sound like an Isuzu ??

This will be a new project for me and it's something I'm not an expert in, so all advice gratefully received.

i've no idea about your Nissan motor and how easy or difficult it would be to fit, i'd expect at least the need for an adaptor between the Series gearbox and flywheel housing along with modified engine mounts and possibly a flywheel modification, so that engine swap would be a case of looking around the web to see if anyone else has done it and the sort of problems/costs encountered...

the reason for mentioning adaptors to the Series box is that i expect the nissan box will be quite a bit longer than the old landy box ( the few japs i've worked on have been) which would in all probability put the gearshift trying to come up somewhere thru the middle seat area, then there'd be the problem of prop lengths and matching flanges plus what would your handbrake be attached to ?? and would you be cutting out crossmembers and resiting them to allow the gearbox in ??

Originally Posted by jerryd

Following this thread with great interest as it's something I'd like to do one day in the not too distant future
By installing the 200tdi motor, does it make the "Series Landrover" more of a modern tourer ?? This is what my intentions will be, to create a reliable and economical vehicle that can be used.

I see in the "markets" there is a Nissan ED33 engine + box for sale, would this be an equivalent option instead of a 200tdi ?? Or would this motor make the Series sound like an Isuzu ??

This will be a new project for me and it's something I'm not an expert in, so all advice gratefully received.

The thing I liked about the 200 Tdi was the ease of fitting it there no adaptors no new engine mounts it would have to be the easiest motor swap you could expect to do. My reason for doing it was to make a more modern tourer/ daily driver. You have to remember this is still a series and as such the rest of the car is still a series also. I do not want to go over board cost wise otherwise I would just get a defender for what you can pick up one for now. Mind you, you can not get a 90 county here and if you can they are a bit to buy. About your engine I am just not sure, as nitemare said so many options to consider here, the KISS principle is the best to follow with these sort of projects the more complex the adaptions the more time and more costs and it is still a series at the end of the day. Still a great little car so don't get me wrong but you could spend up to 20K sourcing another motor then box and making it fit then fitting better brakes suspension seats etc. etc.

There a red Series on Ebay at the moment he wants $9800 for it, nice little car and he is having issues moving it, I nearly bought it just to drop my 200 Tdi into and take a short cut on this project as every thing else is done that I intend to do for this conversion. In the end it is still around what it will cost me to get this project to completion but the saving in time is attractive, the cost is really a bit much for what it is, a non standard series in very good condition. From my experience a stock vehicle unmolested will always fetch far better prices than one that has been converted. Good original examples get harder and harder to find while there are plenty of altered ones around. So as such my Game will always be a stock vehicle even though I have spent a great deal of time contempting dropping the 200Tdi into it.

The girlfriend bought an 88 on the weekend, which the mechanic said, "bin the motor", I have a 200TDi freshly rebuilt (8000k's ago) with a disco 5 speed and transfer case (MY93) (yet to be rebuilt) sitting in the driveway, (work bought me a shiny new 130 deefer and "chugalugs the disco" is sitting there with me wondering what to do with it).
So to clarify this thread, rip out old 2.25 petrol, bolt in 200TDi,
this done by removing locator pins and bolt to the old gear box, machine off the second pulley guides. A bit of fiddling with the alternator and pipe work for the intercooler / turbo and presto, 200TDi with 4 speed in 88' (Which I think is going to be "Bertie the Blap mobile"?)

It seems far too simple.
Have you guys looked at, maybe i missed the posts. putting the disco box and case into the 88/109?

Cheers, she wants it done in July (gulp)

MB

a disco box is that long that you'll probably bolt the rear axle straight to the output flange

but 200tdi engine drop in place a doddle, in the 88 they fit really easily just as they come out of the donor

my first took me 3.5 days from start to finish working on my own and figuring a few things out for myself, that was a quick and dirty fitting which has been really reliable apart from a cambelt snapping (3 bent pushrods and a new cambelt kit saw me back on the road)

save the disco diffs if they're 10 spline they give it good road legs, mine with overdrive and 3.54 easily sits at motorway speeds

i'm doing a slower build of a 109 with 200 engine, 300 turbo and td5 intercooler in the "other engines" section which i'm very close to finished