Thread: diesel options

Originally Posted by shorty943

Been a Perkins fan for many years, mainly in boats.

The beauty of Perkins is the availability of parts, ANY farm machinery place carries them, Massey Ferguson still run Perky engines.

That being said, I am dropping a Daihatsu 3.8 into my S3 Landy, only reason being, I got the entire engine and 5 speed gearbox nice and cheap.

Shorty, what is the 3.8 Daihatsu motor out of?
Or do you mean a 2.8 DL diesel out of an early 1980's Scat or Rocky?
The Daihatsu's motors and drive trains are fantastic, well built, rather heavy duty and exceptionaly reliable. The 2.5 litre DG diesels were very economical (in their day) but the 2.8 DL is a better performer.
Several years back there was a thread on here with some pics adapting a Daihatsu diesel to a series gearbox.
Someone will know how to find the old thread.
Good luck and can we see some pics of your project please?

Cheers, Mick.

Originally Posted by 123rover50

What are your thoughts on the Isuzu 4jb1 versus the Perkins 4 .182/Mazda HA engines into a series?
Both geared cam drive.
Both can be turbo,ed.

Isuzu kit ex UK cheaper than the Perkins.
Perkins , wet liners not sure about the 4j.
Thanks.
Keith

The Perkins motors are a good choice, parts readily available and at a reasonable cost. Always a rather economical motor to run too.
About fifteen years ago I reconditioned the motor on our 135 Massey Ferguson tractor. It has the three cylinder AD3 152 ci motor and I was really impressed by the fact that Perkins used the same sleeves piston sets and bearings in the three cylinder, four cylinder and six cylinder engines in that model diesel. Basically every cylinder was 50 ci.
Good donks to work on, good for parts and pretty well go forever.


Cheers, Mick.

Got a perkins 4/165 a series 3 109 has gone everywhere from the simpson to the cape and kimberly. The 4/165 was replaced by the 4/182 that was a much more popular engine and hence cheaper parts. My 4/165 went in at about 50,000 ks and has done over 300,000 . Now sitting in the shed. It plugged along ok but was a little slow revving and not quite enough power for a overdrive. Good reliable engine though.
Lindsay.

Originally Posted by oldyella 76

Got a perkins 4/165 a series 3 109 has gone everywhere from the simpson to the cape and kimberly. The 4/165 was replaced by the 4/182 that was a much more popular engine and hence cheaper parts. My 4/165 went in at about 50,000 ks and has done over 300,000 . Now sitting in the shed. It plugged along ok but was a little slow revving and not quite enough power for a overdrive. Good reliable engine though.
Lindsay.

Lindsay what revs would the perkins do and what was the top speed with the perkins in the vehicle? Did you fit higher ratio diffs? Where did you get the adaptor from?

Cheers, Mick.

Mmmmm.. Perkins's in Land Rovers..... Really, in this day and age?? that was something some people used to do to Series trucks and early Range Rovers in the UK in the 80's because fuel was soooo expensive and has by all accounts got more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Perkins are a great engine... In a tractor, Boat or old British truck. Every Perkins powered Solihull vehicle I drove (4 in total) were noisy and slow but good on fuel. Flat out at 80kph a little over 2200 rpm. Unless you get a late automotive Perkins (Prima 2litre fitted in Maestro and Montego cars in the UK) or Freeklander lump, you would be fairly disappointed with it, you'd need, heavy front springs, 750x16 tall truck tyres, 3.54:1 diffs, overdrive, and a decent pair of ear muffs!! I did drive a widened 110 hi cap with a Perkins 6354 Header engine in it. Sounded and drove like a truck but did go quite well. IMO, you can't go wrong with a 200tdi. The Series 2 box will cope... just, and it will bolt straight to the gearbox! Your old 2.286 engine mounts will fit to the Tdi and it will sit on the original chassis mounts. With a little bit of drilling out, the old 3 bolt thermostat housing will bolt on allowing you to use the original top hose and a slightly modified bottom hose. 2a rad copes fine, ser 3 rad just but has to be good and utilise the engine driven fan. Spend time with the coweling and it will pay off. Battery tray will have to go, so will the oil bath air cleaner and the 'pea shooter' exhaust. Either an overdrive or later diffs will give you good top speed, but even in std form it will still boogy! Just my thoughts! Good luck!

4JB1 or 4JG2 would be my pick. The perkins can't rev and would require an OD or huge tyres.

Also try the Nissan TD27.

The 4-182 was a good donk. 85 BHP at 3600 RPM. That was fast enough.
198 NM at 1800 RPM.
I bought the last two conversion kits the the Landy dealer in Brisbane had back in the 80,s. Was it Austral Motors? Down by the Hospital on the main rd in. One kit for a Rangy and one a Landy. I sold the latter.(regretting it) and put the former into my wifes two door. Went well with the standard gearing. Then she got Carpel Tunnel in her left wrist and found it hard to change cogs so I got a kit from a mob in Noosa to put the Borg Warner three spd auto in it. It went well too by my standards, but then our other cars were series diesels.
Later she saw the silver Sherwood on a stand at a Dealer in Brissie and decided to trade it in.
I wonder who bought our diesel one.
If I remember correctly Numpty,s Missus had a landy with a 4-182 in it for sale on here a few years back.

I know a local guy who pruchased a series three swb from up in the brisbane area and it was fitted with a perkins four cylinder donk. I am not sure what model engine it was but the previous owner had run his own home brew fuel in it.
The vehicle was driven down here to Victoria and then the motor was removed and the adaptor kit sold off.

Cheers, Mick